Ep. 53: The Last Sicha The Rebbe Edited L’eis Ato with Rabbi Avrohom Mann

00:00 Speaker 1 And he, and he realized that as, that he's now by the Rebbe, like the Rebbe says, "Oh, he's a yechidis." And in this moment, he connects to the Rebbe. He could walk out of the air with the same energy and the same shinui, change in his life like a bocher by, a bocher by Darche, Sonoy Darche.

00:20 Speaker 2 There's another integral component to Pan, which is called the Meipan. If you want to learn more about what this is, stay tuned later in the episode. If you've been enjoying this podcast, please like and subscribe so that others can enjoy it as well. In addition, if you've benefited in any way from Among Chassidim podcast and would like to give something back, you can do so today at derher.org/donate. I'm Yossi Kamen. Welcome to Among Chassidim by Der Her, an ongoing fablingen about life as a Chassid, our vibrant connection with the Rebbe, and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. Shalom Aleichem, Rabbi Man. How are you?

01:14 Speaker 1 Baruch Hashem, Baruch Hashem.

01:16 Speaker 2 Okay, thank you so much for making the time. And, um, I would like to begin, and, uh, I mean, I, I know you somewhat from, uh, many years ago when I was in Mesivta in Toronto, but I never learned by you, but, uh, sat by some of your fablingens. But before, uh, I would-- I would like to know, uh, from, from where you come from, and, uh, I understand your, your, your father's alive. I, I know from Jerusalem, and there's a, a history there, so maybe you can start off with that.

01:52 Speaker 1 So actually, everything is hasgacha protis, common. But the Rebbe says that the Rebbe was, uh, put into Cheit Mimim, is hasgacha meyuchedes, hasgacha protis, that the Rebbe Rashab, the MaHarIn GeLeit Cheit Mimim. The Rebbe Rashab put him into Cheit Mimim. And my father's story, you see it mamish in a tangible way. Um, he was a Yerushalmi, like all the Yerushalmies, and some of his brothers went to other yeshivas. One, one of his brothers, like Tommy Mosoh, um, more than one brother. But at the Kapanim, he learned in Etz Chaim, which is a cheder, and, and then a yeshiva katanim, Mesivta. And officially, he was supposed to continue in the program. But, uh, hasgacha protis, they, the cheder learned the same masechta that they learned in Yeshiva Alef, yeshiva katanim, Mesivta. So he didn't like it. He asked them to change it. They not only didn't want to because they had the yeshiva header say so. So he made a ganz balagan. He's a clever man. My father is a gezund and he's a clever man, huh. It's time to understand, he's a real estate agent. He's a businessman. Uh, it's part of his personality that he had-- he used to have a lot of money, a big bal teshuva. So he's a clever man be'teva. So he organized a ganz dos, uh, and they were not ready to, to change it, so he looked for a different yeshiva. A different yeshiva, they are same, they are same as the Lubavitch yeshiva, uh, in, in Jerusalem.

03:39 Speaker 1 It was a good quality, pashut, learning in nigleh. It was a good Rosh Yeshiva there. And what to do with Hasidus? Yechidus, no Hasidus. It's a good yeshiva, but not good nigleh. So he decided to go there. And then-

03:52 Speaker 2 Mamish hasgacha protis.

03:54 Speaker 1 Yeah. And interesting that they changed then Etz Chaim after the whole balagan, they already changed a different masechta.

04:00 Speaker 2 Huh.

04:00 Speaker 1 By the my father was already, the Ibstock already had his, the plan to sh-send him to Cheit Mimim. That was his, that was the, like the rest is history.

04:09 Speaker 2 This is like in the youths? When is this?

04:11 Speaker 1 This was in, in the youths.

04:14 Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

04:15 Speaker 1 My father is a gezund said something very interesting. I'm saying it's, uh, that, um, that when the schlicha of Tzemach Kedoshim to Zion, it was then a bochur, was the first time they knew what a Rebbe is. That there's a Rebbe, a new Rebbe. They knew about Firkir Rebbe, they knew some Hasidim of previous generations, v'chulu v'chulu, Hasidish Yidden, Ein Hashem. But they knew that the Firkir passed away, and they didn't know Rebbe. But they didn't know what, what is the Rebbe. And the schlichim came, they, they saw Chevre giants in nigleh Yichidus in Chevre Man speaking, you know, Afos HaYad, Afos HaMayones. You are all bochurim. The-- My father told me then they-- Yechidim to Israel started to say, "As far an Rebbe of the world." The thing is, a mere deke roi in our situation after Gimel Tammuz, when you see a Lubavitcher Hasid, you see a Hasid, a shliach. The man's a mentch. He's a yeshiva yechidun, even a baal esek, but you see a, a mehus nigleh Hasidus, Yerushalayim, Hasidish gait, full of simcha, ahavas Israel. You see a Rebbe. You pashut find a-- You see that he's a Rebbe of the world. It's very interesting, uh, nekuda.

05:37 Speaker 2 Yeah. So he's in third SMS, and, uh, because of that, his pashut, uh, he fell, he fell into Lubavitch.

05:49 Speaker 1 Yeah.

05:49 Speaker 2 And it, uh... So at that point, he ever, he ever came to the Rebbe, though, then or later? Like how, what happened then?

05:56 Speaker 1 So my father's g- I, I wanna say gezund, I'm saying my father is a gezund zane. Es is- Yeah. personally. story. Even the, the two times. Says the one time was my mother, because woman is also . We're part of the . And but the and the covet that the supposed to get, the husband used to get if he came along. So one of them was my father, one of them my mother, . So and the Rebbe gave out-

06:38 Speaker 2 So, so till so he, he came to the Rebbe the first time, ?

06:42 Speaker 1 No, no, I'm gonna speak about it soon. I'm just giving-

06:43 Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah

06:43 Speaker 1 ... a small introduction-

06:45 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah

06:45 Speaker 1 ... about, about, um, about some... I'm, I'm saying mentioned before that he's still alive. So I'm, I'm, uh, I'm just describing a story that brings it out, that, uh, two times, and . One with him, one with my father, mother. So to representatives of the whole world. Um, used to get for even for Ruslan and . And the used to get also, uh, a of it. So he got... The sin was that he, he got . So he comes up to and he takes, uh, and takes more than three . , names two. So he says, uh, "Take three for myself, and three I'm gonna take for my host." Rabbi Reinitz used to be, Shlomo Reinitz used to be . He lived in Kronitz. That was, uh, was a to stay with him.

08:01 Speaker 2 To

08:02 Speaker 1 My father is and he's saying now .

08:12 Speaker 2 Ah.

08:13 Speaker 1 And he's going to walk . That's to even though you could say is expression in Yiddish like, you know- like, you know, .

08:25 Speaker 2 Right.

08:26 Speaker 1 But as, as Reb says, to the soup.

08:30 Speaker 2 Wow.

08:31 Speaker 1 Anyway, back to the history of my father. He was a Tommy, and then he got close to the Rebbe. He didn't . And I think he was by the Rebbe the first time. How do I know? Because he told me that he was there the f- I think the first year that they made, um, by the Rebbe, they stay in s- next to some somebody instead of walking. So if, according to this, I think the first year was . So he was at . And then he came to the Rebbe every year or second year, very often. If it was three years ago, it was a big because my father-

09:14 Speaker 2 That was, that was unusual in that time

09:15 Speaker 1 ... used to have maybe money. Yeah, he used to have money. He was a, was a . Uh, someone not just, uh, means someone not just have money, gives a lot of . Um, there's a cute story with, uh, that I discovered only later. He tells me one day, you know, Reb Zusha of Anipol, he's a good friend of mine. Every Elul, he used to come into my father's office, real estate office. It's still existing. He's still doing that. He comes there. Every Elul, he used to come, "Could you lend me out money for a ticket to go to the Rebbe?" And it was clear it was . We both understood each other that it's not meant, this, uh, borrowing money is not meant to be paid back. And, uh, Reb Zusha was like one of the-

10:12 Speaker 2 Zusha of Anipol

10:13 Speaker 1 ... that came to the Rebbe every Tisha.

10:16 Speaker 2 To your father's business.

10:18 Speaker 1 Yeah. And then, um, then he came to the Rebbe, very often. And he had a say that, that he took his kids to the Rebbe, my sisters older than me. And then, uh, and then came my turn. was the first time he took me to the Rebbe. I was before bar mitzvah. It was amazing. I was 11 years old, almost 11 years old. It was as a child. I, I, I saw that what you remember as a child, certain things, there's nothing comparable to what you see later. In other words, they're saying that there's certain things that, that and, and it gets engraved in you, and you see it in a s- in a very sincere and, and, uh, honest way that you don't have it even later. Uh, there's few incident that I remember, but that, that the that's one of the that I saw the experience, and I'm very thankful to my father that he took me as a child, and then after the bar mitzvah,

11:33 Speaker 2 I, I imagine not many of your went to, to, to see the Rebbe at that age.

11:39 Speaker 1 Right. Right. Even though Jerusalem had a very interesting thing, that by them the Rebbe was a very strong . And a lot... Says to go to the Rebbe, to go to the Rebbe to, to have a passion, a love to the Rebbe was a very strong thing in Jerusalem. Says whoever was connected had a very strong connection. Interesting that not necessarily so much the Rebbe stay there, didn't, didn't, didn't arrive in Jerusalem in those years so much- But the Rebbe's, the Rebbe personally and the Rebbe's mitzvot was very surprising. So, Chabad library, a good Chabad library, started to publicize, uh, things dueches that they wrote to the Rebbe. So it says on there, uh, a duech from the Lameds that they went to mitzvot to a town in Jerusalem, Ir Ganim. Ir Ganim is like a very officially, very frei, not frum area. It says that the driver was Rabbi Yaakov Lezer Man, because he had money, yes, he had a car, and he drove the people. And I actually remember as a child that Friday he used to take me to mitzvot. Friday, other opportunities, he took me to mitzvot because it's the Rebbe's inyan. In other words, the Rebbe personally and the Rebbe's inyanim at Gibrent. Very interesting. Mitganzi Yerushalmi.

12:59 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

12:59 Speaker 1 Uh, it's like as a... But the Rebbe attract them. The Rebbe personally and the Rebbe's mitzvot, the Rebbe's inyanim was managed to get to them.

13:12 Speaker 3 So, so you did Mem Baz for, it was for Tishrei?

13:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, it was the Mem Baz Tishrei. It actually came, uh, so it's a mature we came. Um, and interesting that my father was a chiyuv. His mother passed away half a year before. And it's sometimes very hard to find Minyanim, to organize Minyanim. People should not just, you know, people should be with you, not just people officially, but people should answer to you, to your Chazzan or Shach or Chulu. So he was thinking maybe this year not gonna go. His chaverim said, "Listen, come, we're gonna help you out with Minyanim." 'Cause money wasn't the issue. The technicality to organize a Minyan two times a day wasn't easy. So, they told him, "Come, we're gonna help you." And he came, and maybe the bracha that he got just saying his zun was in this year was probably not easy to come.

14:07 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

14:07 Speaker 1 And then he got this special bracha that maybe, we've seen, we've seen this, we don't know what's happening up there and down here, but it's, uh, accompanied with a good lesson. That when you go to the Rebbe when it's not so easy, it's a even a bigger accomplishment.

14:23 Speaker 3 Wow. Okay, and, uh, and but I'm, I'm imagining from the yuds and whatever, some of these letters also back, back from the Rebbe that he got. Like I'm imagining-

14:33 Speaker 1 Yes.

14:34 Speaker 3 I don't know.

14:34 Speaker 1 Yeah. The emesis, I think, um, there's for sure letters and even a shidduch, I figure out that they could have closed a shidduch with my mother. It was a bracha of the Rebbe. And not just a bracha of the Rebbe, uh, my bubbe, may her soul, my mother's mother, wasn't so excited about the shidduch. We said some technical reasons, the age gap, whatever, between mother and father, some technical reasons originally, but she got the answer of the Rebbe, and that's what made it. So they got a, they got a letter of the Rebbe that the Rebbe is masking to the shidduch.

15:13 Speaker 3 She wasn't a Lubavitcher.

15:14 Speaker 1 No, not a Lubavitcher. She's a-

15:16 Speaker 3 She got a letter.

15:17 Speaker 1 Yeah, she was a... Rebbe knows that, uh, does, she was very close to a tzadik. His name was Rabbi Sholom Kezvilim. He was very, very, very close to the Friediker Rebbe. He was a attack aidah bal madrega. He said about, uh, people complain to him how come he, uh, the Lubavitch Rebbe, Friediker Rebbe, and the Rebbe speak about Moshiach. Friediker Rebbe was. He wasn't... Said, "How come speak about Moshiach?" Everyone knows that, uh, in Yiddish there's expression. Whoever speaks about it doesn't know. Whoever doesn't know speaks about it. So how come the Friediker Rebbe speaks about Lubavitch? So he became serious and he said the stoid of the secret about Moshiach was given to Lubavitch. This Chassidus Chabad against the Fatso Meynus Chutz that the Rebbe to the Rabbeim took the tax of, you put some Meynus Har Chutz of the Bashem Tov. So the inyan of Moshiach said, "If the Rabbeim of Chabad speak about Moshiach, you could trust."

16:15 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

16:15 Speaker 1 And some, Chabad, she was a, she was very close to him. She was, but the, the, the shidduch was years later, and, uh, she waited for the Rebbe, when the Rebbe said it's okay. So that's accompanied one letter that I know, uh, that the Rebbe Poshut may, ki-ki-kilu with the Chatava even, made a shidduch happen.

16:38 Speaker 3 Right. So what was it, um, what, what was the kesher, I, I imagine you learned in the Lubavitcher yeshivas in Eretz Yisrael. What, what was the, the kesher with the Rebbe while, while you were in Eretz Yisrael, and what brought, brought you to come to the Rebbe? What was that whole, whole thing?

16:57 Speaker 1 So the emesis, since I came to the Rebbe Tav Shin Mem Beis, it was a different connection to the Rebbe, bein harich ma. Even though I was, uh, ten years or close to 11 years old, I remember this is a Yud Kislev, uh, I was born Tav Shin Lamed Alef, which means Tav Shin Mem Beis, I was 10 years old, close to 11. But I, I told you before, it was Poshut, like, sh- the Rebbe you see as a child is nothing compared to him. We Poshut loved being by the Rebbe. We love the Rebbe, and we love being by the Rebbe. The Moshe example, I remember I'm, we, when we missed the Poshut Mincha as a child, we, I felt bad because I wanted to be Mincha by the Rebbe. I thi- I remember is that my chil- my parents want to make, you know, a child entertainments to go to interesting attractions that you have in New York. I fe- it was fun. It was, it was absolutely fun. But I remember that, that being by the Rebbe was the more geshmak thing. Poshut the gashmiyus. We love to be with the Rebbe. So when I came back, it was uchups. The Rebbe farbrengte, big farbrengens, it was uchups. So- So in the chuppahs, they-- I, I came to the chuppah by us at three in the morning. They were for making some seventy-nine thirty, but yes, it was three thirty, four thirty, depends on the time. Thank you. So it was like

18:30 Speaker 1 we came, we came, and we listened, and they start to myself more, more when I was even-- especially after my bar mitzvah that I understood even more. But, um, I remember one of the altar Bachim gave me interesting advice. He saw that I am listening, and I down, try to understand. He says, "Give Shmaky a practical thing to hear the Rebbe." So then when I tell the Bachim today, I'm in Toronto with Yeshiva and the Bachim. So I tell them same idea. When you hear farbrengen of the Rebbe, especially of the later years, when the Rebbe goes into a topic, don't try to connect what is the connection before. Listen to the current moment and try to understand what the Rebbe says right now. Then later on, after the Sicha, try to connect the dots. It was a very good because a lot-- the Rebbe used to go into a lot of going, interesting sightings, or the Rebbe used to go off, you know, off the Nekudot. But after those Sicha, you got how things came in, so at least you didn't get lost. Most time just to describe the Nekudot that we poshut love Sicha for brangis of the Rebbe.

19:37 Speaker 3 So by the time you came, by the time you came to Seven Seven, you permanently, you're already reduced to the Sicha of the Rebbe and, and, and it's a farbrengens.

19:46 Speaker 1 For sure. For sure.

19:50 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

19:50 Speaker 1 Even Tisha by the Rebbe, I still remember it was a farbrengis of the Rebbe. Remember Tosim in base, Tisha it ca-it came, the shturom was Es es es mesef etele. So the Rebbe, I remember a Sicha, the Rebbe spoke so sharp and harsh. But why don't people do it in Gimel Tishrei, Tosim in base? So I remember that the Rebbe, the Koch, the Rebbe, they understood. Not going tell you I understood the Maimon. Eh, Kanasha Ya'akine, the Rebbe said, "Shabbas Hazinu." The first time I raised from Rebbe, now I see the Maimon. I, I, I'm not remember, I don't remember the Rebbe, I understood what Rebbe said, but his Sichas and ideas and, uh, ways that the Rebbe's Koch and Rebbe Shrien, the Rebbe demanding from Chasidim, I understood what's happening. Kind of the Nekudot what the Rebbe wanted to bring out. And I'll translate the Sicha after. Actually, by the way, my father, um, was very excited about a satellite. They used-- They made satellite. Then was a lot of money. So, mm, he figured out that it's gonna be... It's a big expense. Today, internet, it's nothing to see something alive, live when the Rebbe speaks. But then it was a, mamish, a lot of money for every minute. Even a phone call was a lot of money. For sure, a satellite to see the Rebbe live and the Rebbe farbrengen. But they did few farbrengens. All Yerushalayim was there, even no Shori, even not exactly Chabad. It was an interesting thing to

21:22 Speaker 1 see alive from, from a different country. So he figured out this concept that they gonna send after the farbrengen a recording of the video. Chasidim gonna come together, and he paid a lot of money to buy the machine. And he did it together with Baranovers out of Yerushalayim, just passed away, his son. And he-

21:44 Speaker 3 Dani.

21:46 Speaker 1 With Dani. Dani took care of the practical thing, and father was sponsoring it. Which was the gift for him as Chasidim from Zen of Rebbe and the Nan of the Rebbe, and to see the Rebbe and hear the Rebbe and, and know what the Rebbe is into. Right after the farbrengen at-- Few days after the farbrengen, they ship over the, the, the recording and the video where the Rebbe was there to see farbrengen. Then I came, then, then Baruch Hashem, I came to the Rebbe every Tishrei. From my bar mitzvah-

22:17 Speaker 3 From then be-from then base every Tishrei you came?

22:20 Speaker 1 No, not from then base. My bar mitzvah was Yutkis of Tosim in Dalet.

22:24 Speaker 3 Yeah.

22:25 Speaker 1 And, um, and I just got put again a set of Rambam from my brother-in-law, future brother-in-law. You know, there's a Mashpia, Rav, Rav Shon Deitsch, very famous Mashpia in Maayan Nison, was my Magid Shiur in Halakha, and I was a Bachur, I gave my Gishmak in Halakha. So he had a younger brother that he was my brother-in-law. I'm saying was because he passed away unfortunately young. Um, so he gave me a set of Rambam few months before the Rebbe started Miftza Rambam. So that was Yutkis of Tosim in Dalet. And then after Pesach, the Rebbe started the Miftza, I had a Rambam ready, it's about three subprokim. Uh, raised up, uh, raised up high the way, and Baruch Hashem, uh, Rambam wasn't today-- it wasn't common, even a Chas, in other Sefarim. Rambam wasn't a common Sefer that everyone should have. I had already set and, uh, Baruch Hashem, mamish from day one. And then next Tishrei, Tosim in Ey, came to the Rebbe, the first Tishrei after my bar mitzvah. And since then, Baruch Hashem, every, every Tishrei with-- Ad ayam hazeh mamish, Baruch Hashem. Uh, Baruch Hashem, ad ayam hazeh, uh, Mashlichis, yeshiva. So yeshiva, there's a op, that's a time. So Baruch Hashem, every Simchas Torah, even I went to Mashlichas and Rosh Hashana as a Bachur, but Simchas Torah, Baruch Hashem, I was always with the Rebbe every Tishrei since my bar mitzvah.

23:53 Speaker 3 Wow.

23:53 Speaker 1 Pizor Hashem.

23:54 Speaker 3 Okay. So what ha-- When did you-- So how, what was the story behind you came to the Rebbe permanently? That was for a Kvitza, what was that?

24:03 Speaker 1 So the Emesi, I had a big ratze to go to the Rebbe Machon Miam, to learn with the Rebbe. Um, from I was in Yeshivat Dena where I, I wanted to stay. But, um, I got an answer of the Rebbe regarding, uh, going to learn in Montreal. So in Yechidas Klendi, the Rebbe told me there was a farbrengen by Dana Ole. Says, "I learned in Yeshivat Yechidas Klendi."

24:35 Speaker 3 Yes.

24:35 Speaker 1 Yeah. So after the, by the end of Yechidas, I asked the Rebbe should I go learn in Montreal. Says, "I'm going to say it's no longer me. I learned in Yeshivat Itas Emes. It's a very, very good yeshiva." It's Mamish Hashmak of Shloime Cohen from Montreal today is, uh, um, is Chabad of Israel, is Mada, Mekas Divrei Ivrit. So he was then menayel of, uh, Yeshivat. And at my way, Shtotl Avi Fis, he poshut, he took care of me as a Bachur, even though he was menayel, but he was menayel, he was Mashpia menayel. at my way, Shtotl Avi Fis and, um, Ruchnius. And then Tov Shen, after, by Yeshivas Beis, end of Yeshivas Beis was, yeshiva didn't work out. Some, some menael not good, didn't work out, yeshiva. So I wanted to go to a different yeshiva. So there was a group of bochur went to Montreal to learn in Montreal. And, um, and I, and I asked, I knew the Rebbe is not gonna let a bachur go to a different place without Rashut of the current Anole. Like a very, very strong, consistent shitah of the Rebbe, that if you wanna know where you're going to go next year, you have to have Rashut of the Anole, of the current Anole. You have it in the Gesher. So I wrote to the Rebbe that I have Rashut from the Anole to go to Montreal. And I asked the Rebbe, "Eitzah tovah, if it's the proper-- if it's the best thing for me."

26:04 Speaker 1 So the Rebbe didn't answer my cetl. And he hid a story after the Rebbe, and he hid a story, answered the, after the, after the sicha, the brocha. So the Rebbe gave everyone a dollar. The Rebbe accepted a pan, and the Rebbe gave a dollar. Pan accepted, and the Rebbe gave a dollar. So I asked the Rebbe, "So do I get Anole in Montreal?" In other words, the Rebbe already, I got Rashut, but I wanna know if that's eitzah tovah. The Rebbe said, "You should just to freg by the Anole." In other words, you should take a eitzah tovah. Even I got Rashut, but if you wanna have advice what's the best place for you, not just the Rashut, it's a eitzah tovah, you should just to freg by the Anole. So I asked the Anole of Tiras Zemenes, Yeshivat Chaim Yesivte, Tiras Zemenes, and he told me that, uh, take, uh, he told me at the end of stand, it doesn't work for you to stay in Tiras Zemenes for sure, gimel. But, uh, not to go to Montreal, they gave me a better, a different date to go to Lod, not to Israel. So I could find him. Tov Shen in Bob, I learned in Lod. I learned in Lod. It was the sixth. Uh, after Tisha, I came back to Israel. I went to Lod based on Rebbe's instructions to ask the Anole as a eitzah tovah, and the Anole told me to go to Lod, I went to Lod. And from

27:26 Speaker 1 there, I went to, from there, I went to Kiryat Gat. So if you're in Kiryat Gat, it goes three years, and then goes kvutze. So I was supposed to be kvutze Tov Shen nun, but the patience was too much. I can, I couldn't be in not Israel, not go to the Rebbe. So I, I, in, I, I in, I pushed it the penam that came a half a year earlier. And I pushed it Tov Shen nun. I came to the Rebbe before Yud Aleph Nissan. Tov Shen tet. Very gishmeke ma'ase, but it's some, uh, that it was Tov Shen nun, uh, Tov Shen, um, I want to go to the Rebbe for Yud Aleph Nissan. Yud Aleph Nissan then was like the queens of this year. Tov Shen pei vav was Motzei Shabbos. And Yud Aleph Nissan was Motzei Shabbos, so Shabbos before Shabbos Hagadol. And bekitzah, I wanna go to the Rebbe, but there's many technical things that didn't, wasn't, uh, wasn't the place to make it. And I see a sicha of the Rebbe at Shabbos Gimel Nissan. As I'm aware, it was Shabbos at Parashat Metzora, I think. The Rebbe said in the sicha that, um, now is at nu tkufe of Nissan. It was a half a year before, before Tes Nissan. The Rebbe said, "I can't say sicha now. It's a nu tkufe of Nissan." Very gishmeke sicha. The Rebbe said, "Even though usually you say, 'Ein samechim al ha'nes,' so you don't rely on Nissan." The Rebbe said, "Of

28:55 Speaker 1 a year, it's different because by a Yid, a Yid, regel ha'Nissan is part of his tevah. It's not even a nes. That's regel of tevah." The Rebbe, a nes is the Rebbe didn't refer, but a nes is, you know, okay, it's the opposite kind of nes. So by yas, regel ha'Nissan, that's, uh, Nishan denen chazar gizara of ein samechim al ha'nes. That's part of the pshat ein samechim al ha'nes because that's pa-part of our tevah. The Rebbe said, "But by zeh, it's pnim tsfuka, samechim al ha'nes." Yosh, on regel ha'Nissan, you should rely. And Nishan Smicha, the Rebbe used the laws of Smicha, it says in Chazal that Smicha is b'chol kojeche. That the pshat means that now I'm gonna bring the Mesach Kodesh to make to the Smicha leaning on it, so you lean on it b'chol kojeche. So the Rebbe said the Rebbe used the same expression, jagad me Nissan. So by Smicha, samechim al ha'nes, so Smicha b'chol kojeche. I started the sicha right after Shabbos. We got a techin kotz then. I said, "I'm going to be by the Rebbe next Shabbos." I didn't have, I didn't have a passport because I, I lost my passport. If you don't have a passport, you can't have a visa. The travel agent tells me everything is booked because the couples wanna go to the pens, so the flights are full to go from Israel to US. There is no place in it. And I said, "Al tiftrai." The Rebbe said, "Smicha b'chol kojeche."

30:16 Speaker 1 I'm going to be by the Rebbe, BeEzrat Hashem, before Shabbos, uh, Shabbos Hagadol. And Baruch Hashem kacha v'nisim nisim.

30:26 Speaker 4 Namus.

30:26 Speaker 1 But, uh, it take a zeh. I came to the Rebbe Erev Shabbos, Tes Nissan. Shabbos was Shabbos Hagadol. Yud Nissan was a merdekah, merdekah fabrengen. You could see it in the Anoche. Freulegen, the Rebbe said, "Merdekah eisius, but Yud Aleph Nissan." Rebbe never spelled it before, such great eisius. After, the Rebbe s- used the same wording, the same biur, same explanation, same wording later on. But the eisius, the first time the Rebbe s- what, used such words that Yud Aleph Nissan was this fabrengen. Rebbe said- That Shabbos HaGadol is Yud. Yud is teva. Yud is is all teva, the meaning of teva. And Shabbos is also, Shabbos is higher than the world, but Sh-Shabbos is part of teva. Because Shabbos, which means that the created seven days, and part of the meaning of creating s- uh, part of the seven days is Shabbos. So Shabbos HaGadol, original Shabbos HaGadol in Mitzrayim was also Yud Nissan. It was a that it gives to Elokus, but it's part of teva. Yud Alef Nissan. Yud Alef Nissan is is eleven. Eleven represent anything I am. Rebbe said when you speak about the himself, any expression you say about the himself is limited. But can it... Why? Because you're describing it. So there's no way to describe the himself. The only expression you could say is eleven, because you don't say what it is. You say what it's not. You say it's higher than ten, higher than anything. Rebbe says even is an expression. is an expression. The only

32:15 Speaker 1 way to express it is with the idea of eleven, . In other words, the Yud Alef Nissan is Rebbe said . It's the highest of all the highest thing possible. And that's what Yud Alef Nissan. Shabbos is Yud Alef Nissan . You can't even after such a . The Rebbe discovered to us what is the meaning of Yud Alef Nissan. And then the Rebbe used the same expression, Yud Shevat. Shevat is the eleventh month, and, and the yes, the Emes HaDeah which we started, Yud Alef Shevat, Taf Shin Yud Alef. Again, the but the, the, the, the base for everything was this Shabbos, Shabbos HaGadol Taf Shin, Shabbos HaGadol Taf Shin Mem Tes. That was the save.

33:10 Speaker 5 There's a whole thing with Shemezmer, right? That, that Shabbos.

33:13 Speaker 1 Right. Right. Right. The, the and they made a different thing, they picked a different thing from many Nigunim. But the the Rebbe spo- uh, um, made a, a Nigun, an the Rebbe spoke in the Sicha, Shemezmer . And when the Rebbe spoke in the Sicha about... The Rebbe spoke about the words that only had, uh, Shemezmer . So, was singing the Nigun in the middle of and there was a interesting . Motzei Shabbos, Zamigrai went up to give the Rebbe a Broche. The Rebbe davened Maariv on the Bime. Made a Bime, and the Rebbe davened Maariv. And after Maariv, he went up to the steps to give the Rebbe a Broche for Yud Alef Nissan, Hashem Tzil. So the Rebbe showed him to go down. In other words, the Rebbe is gonna go down, and he's gonna go down, and, uh, he's gonna give a Broche answer. So it's interesting two explanations of Chassidim. I'm saying it's, uh, you could call it . Things that's not or in Schuchan Aruch, we call it but it's Chassidim. Rav Mordechai says that Zamigrai is a Shlich Tziru. He's not saying his own Broche. He's a Shlich Tziru. He's bringing the Rebbe in, in name of Chassidim, in the name of Yidden. And the Halacha in Schuchan Aruch is that, um, that a Shlich Tziru has to be Hashem. Rebbe showed him, "What are you coming up and saying over here?" But let's go to the, the Schlich Tziru. That's his own Agash. The second Agash-

34:58 Speaker 5 One Agash.

34:58 Speaker 1 -that the Rebbe said... Yeah, one Agash. Another Agash was Chassidim Fabrang. The Rebbe said, "What do you think? Yud Alef Nissan is not the time I'm on the stage, and you come and giving me a Broche. Yud Alef Chassidim, I wanna, in Yud Alef Nissan I wanna be together with Chassidim, going down from the stage. I'm in the same level, the same place that Chassidim are. You know, with Chassidim, mixing with Chassidim, then give me a Broche." And then that's a second Agash of Chassidim. Both Agash are Agash . I'm saying some Chassidish the night after.

35:31 Speaker 5 You see it back in the video of it. It's a very interesting scene.

35:34 Speaker 1 Very that's exactly what I wanna tell you. Very . After the, after the, after the Broche, the Rebbe then sat back with that Sicha, and then Chassidim were singing Shem Yisrael. And the Rebbe was holding down the pareches, like every time the Rebbe went in or went out, holding down the pareches of the... And the Rebbe was looking at Chassidim for a short moment. But you saw perhaps the love of the Rebbe to Chassidim and Chassidim to the Rebbe. It was a short moment, the Rebbe took a coup to the hour of spun with the Simcha. You perhaps can't describe it. At Chanukah... So I thought, I'm telling you, I, for y- I remember this vision, the Rebbe standing like this, and like a stick of smile, but big and not a smile, but a hour of spun, like on happy face, feliche face. And the Chassidim are singing, the Rebbe is looking at Chassidim, and Chassidim are singing. So I, I, in my heart, like you will see, perhaps you saw the Rebbe's love to Chassidim and Chassidim to the Rebbe. And then my brother-in-law is Rabbi Levkovsky. He's in Brazil. Now, he lives in Brazil. So years later, he was in my house, and then we got married. I says, "I got married to his sister." So years later, he tells me, "Messiah love you to me, that he was a Shlich in California. So he brought a group of Balebatim to go to the Rebbe." So he says one of the Balebatim,

36:56 Speaker 1 they said that they saw this moment, Motzei Shabbos, when the Rebbe coming out and singing Shem Yisrael, he saw the love between Rebbe and Chassidim and Chassidim and Rebbe. So I said just came to the Rebbe to be by the Rebbe permanently. It's objectively, this was, uh, to capture the moment.

37:18 Speaker 5 Right.

37:19 Speaker 1 To see, this, uh,

37:22 Speaker 5 And I was, so I was saying that you can, you can see something special in that video.

37:27 Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

37:27 Speaker 5 Only because of the, the Rebbe's down with, with the tefillin like you're describing, and then I think the Rebbe says, uh, right? The Rebbe says, uh, it's like a whole exp-whole expression over there. And then it's a very special, uh, scene, and it's-

37:40 Speaker 1 Yeah.

37:40 Speaker 5 -and it's, it's on video also.

37:43 Speaker 1 Yeah.

37:43 Speaker 5 Okay. So, so you came to the Rebbe Tishrei first permanently, and, uh, it started with a, with a bang. So I imagine that it was, it was a total different experience once you were there permanently than it was in Israel.

37:57 Speaker 1 Absolutely. Absolutely. It's the emotion Shabbos farbrengen. Then it was sicha during the week and Shabbos farbrengen. You're standing in front of the Rebbe, a, a farbrengen Shabbos or, or a sicha during the week. The Rebbe The Rebbe push it, picks you up to different heights. Give you an interesting experiment. Push it a little bit to describe it. farbrengen with, this is farbrengen, right? So you could say a little bit it, in other words, the sicha . I ju- I wanna a little bit share a little bit my perso- my, a shtick of my personal experience. It was, um, and it's also a techn that you could learn even Tishrei beRebo. Even Tishrei beRebo, like I'm gonna say soon. But then I could almost was a Tishrei nun alef. Elul Tishrei nun alef. Shabbos sheftin, Tishrei nun alef, the Rebbe spoke a sicha. Rebbe spoke about a sicha that is a novi, and he says Moshiach, Moshiach. And it wasn't just one line. It was a whole farbrengen build up. I remember that push it as, uh, after the Hazanim, after the farbrengen we used to make Hazanim, right? After the farbrengen, the Rebbe was Hazan-

39:29 Speaker 5 I, I wanted to ask you about that. I wanted to ask you about that, about the practice, so may- whatever, yeah.

39:34 Speaker 1 Yeah.

39:34 Speaker 5 We'll get back to it.

39:34 Speaker 1 Let's get that later. We push it, do this Hazan. So push it, you pinch you. Sometimes you're in a farbrengen, you wanna pinch yourself. Is it true? With the Rebbe's... Is it, is it k-kind of, is it correct what I'm hearing? The Rebbe said that the in a Yid in other words, a human being like us, now what became, he has a human being. The the novi from the door, the from the day. The Rebbe then add a own biro that push it the Rebbe said, novi. And he's someone between us. novi. Now even a few nekudos the Rebbe was Rebbe. Rebbe said, um, two nekudos the Rebbe said, um, from the Rebbe And, uh, a second nekuda the Rebbe said of, again, it's a biro, the, the vote at, at that time in Al Rebbe's Meimar, and the Rebbe brings in the sicha. The Rebbe says, Al Rebbe says that you have tzaddikim and tzaddikim kitzim. But it didn't come true. It materializes. The Rebbe said, you know, Al Rebbe himself said, the Tuv-

40:46 Speaker 5 Yes.

40:46 Speaker 1 -and it come true in a case. And now come, when a novi says Moshiach would come, it's gonna happen for us. Rebbe says, because a novi means that it brings it out, the dibo. So Rebbe brings it out in so the person already starting. Kitzim means you see it in ruchnius. You see that this particular year is a year of energy, extra energy. So this energy, I'm saying my own language. If it's gonna come down here, it's gonna be a year, a energy of Moshiach. So it doesn't come out the way it is. Sometimes extra negative things happen because extra energy being used not in a proper way, it might start to be negative. And some extra good things, Tuvishvat, the Rebbe himself was Tuvishvat, and the four cases are dying in Moshiach Suda because it was a year of a kitz. The Rebbe said, Al Rebbe said that if it's gonna be a nevuah, the novi is not just seeing that in ruchnius, it brings it-- The ancient novi is notion wobbling something with your lips. The Rebbe when, when a novi, the ancient gives nevuah, the action being that he says it, he brings it down . And then Rebbe said expression. Above, I'm telling you, I pushed, couldn't believe my ears. Rebbe said, "The far retmen leg'Moshiach lacheinu bedibo davka." That's where Meret, who is ret? The Rebbe. The far retmen leg'Moshiach, the, the nekuda of Moshiach to bring it out bedibo after the farbrengen. There's shtickel interesting points I'm not gonna

42:17 Speaker 1 add, so I'm not gonna mention names. But it was, you could say, you could call it a shpitz Chabad, like a shpitz. Uh, well, you know, a little bit a joke, illustration of a sometimes a shpitz not in a proper way. Like, you know, it's not in a proper way.

42:32 Speaker 5 Usually when the Rebbe speaks about shpitz Chabad, it's not positive, yeah?

42:36 Speaker 1 Right. But one time it's not, is positive. You're gonna see Chol Hamoed Tuv-- Chol Hamoed Sukkot Tosh Mimei was a positive, interesting positive nekude. I was there also, uh, for my bar mitzvah. Not gonna go into all the hiches. It was very sicha. I'm going in from off topics. The Rebbe said the shpitz Chabad they don't-- Kitzur, the shpitz Chabad they don't like that, uh, them learning Nigleh on Shabbos. And the Rebbe was saying on the shtender. Then before the Rebbe, the, the Rebbe stood on the shtender, on the side of the shtender, which means Tosh Mimei Rebo after the Rebbe was, uh, not able to be the s- be the foot They made a different standard for bringing But then the Rebbe stood on the same standard of learning and the same. And the Rebbe said, it was Chabad was . that Shabbos you don't know Nigleh. Even though the, the Rebbe in the Sicha said that they are being pushed in here and toots. See this-

43:42 Speaker 5 In the Chaf, in, in the Chaf there's a whole, uh-

43:44 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah

43:45 Speaker 5 ... back and forth about it.

43:46 Speaker 1 On . So the Rebbe said, and the Rebbe-- But the Rebbe still said Nigleh. The Rebbe said and not being going dead. And the Rebbe said that . And the Rebbe's-- All the questions, so much the Rebbe's like this, from question answer, saying on the side. And the sleeve went from here up to the, almost to the elbow. From, from of Shabbos, from the not knowing Nigleh of Shabbos.

44:20 Speaker 5 Yeah.

44:21 Speaker 1 But on the same, same Tfuche, the Rebbe gave a positive, a statement about Shvitz Chabad. Very interesting thing. The Rebbe said that, that, um, that Shvitz Chabad, the Nekude. I'm not saying the whole background, it's gonna be too long, but the Nekude said to us that this Shvitz Chabad have a Koch HaMoshiach, and the fact that means Kipshute. The Rebbe gave it a positive, uh, a positive, uh, uh,

44:55 Speaker 5 Yeah. I think I saw, I think I saw a Kudus. I think I saw a Kudus, somebody had a Kudus of all the references that the Rebbe, the Shvitz Chabad. I think I saw it around. No-

45:03 Speaker 1 Interesting. But then if you, you check the Kudus, then you see that the Rebbe spoke about someone that doesn't accept Moshiach coming soon, uh, that is not like the Shvitz Chabad. In other words, from the the Shvitz Chabad is a good thing if you use it properly. Back to the Nekude a little bit-

45:20 Speaker 5 Back to the with your friend who's- ... Shvitz Chabad.

45:24 Speaker 1 So the Rebbe, so my, my Chaver, which was Shvitz Chabad, he, he went around and he asked, you know, all the and, uh, people that know the Rebbe Sichas. "Do you have any such a Sicha of the Rebbe?" They haven't admit. There was like a unique Sicha. Right after this Sicha. After this Sicha, the Rebbe, the Rebbe says, uh, the Rebbe goes to the Ohel, and, uh, everyone knows the story. Whatever that... And there was a car accident, and a a child neighbor, was some innocent child. So a child got killed and, and, uh, started a whole pogrom. pogrom.

46:19 Speaker 5 There was a riot.

46:19 Speaker 1 Stones were flying. Riots, the riots was crazy.

46:23 Speaker 5 I wanna mention something that's a big part of writing a pan to the Rebbe, but that sometimes is forgotten, and that is the, the Mei Pan, the money that we give with the pan. If you're wondering why we give money with a pan, we can actually find the explanation in Tanya Nigalei Sakedesh. The Alter Rebbe explains that our livelihood, our Parnassa, is where our energy is invested. The , as he refers to it. When we give the Mei Pan, we're giving a piece of our physical essence. That's what creates the vessel and the Keli to receive the Berachos and this connection and the Skashos we're asking for in our pan. It's a longstanding tradition from the times of the Chassidim of the Alter Rebbe. By giving this Tzedakah together with our pan, we're making the request real in the physical world. So when you send your pan this year, make sure to include the Mei Pan. You can do this through magbis.org and through clicking on the tab for the Mei Pan, which ensures that these funds will go to the same place that the Rebbe would deposit the money that he received in the panim, which is the Rebbe's institutions. It's a small step that makes a huge difference.

47:33 Speaker 1 So the Nekude is, we felt that very, very down. riot was pushed to danger to go on the street. But besides this, wasn't the ph-physical danger. If push has fell down, how could it be such a thing in the Rebbe's Shone that a, a Yid cannot go in the street proudly, is to be afraid? How, how does it make sense? How does it make sense that it, push it was out first accept such a Nekude, such a of Galus, such a Galus situation in that in Rebbe Shone you have to be afraid to go. It didn't resonate with our mind. And especially Rebbe just said such a m-amazing . Moshiach is coming, the world is ready and everything, and such a slap in your face. Rebbe came back from Doyle after, it was, uh, two, two days after the-

48:38 Speaker 5 This is like a middle of the whatever, towards the end of the riots, but yeah.

48:41 Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. It was-

48:42 Speaker 5 After the riots had finished.

48:44 Speaker 1 No, it just started. It just started. It just started. unfortunately.

48:52 Speaker 5 I think it started okay, whatever. Naturally.

48:54 Speaker 1 Huh?

48:54 Speaker 5 Yeah.

48:55 Speaker 1 Uh.

48:55 Speaker 5 I thought it started-

48:56 Speaker 1 You can check the history.

48:57 Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah.

48:58 Speaker 1 It started when? the Rebbe came back from there, the Rebbe said a Sicha in the . The Rebbe said, that a Yid, why does it say ? It should say . You have a war, a fight with your enemies, not on your enemies. The Rebbe said, a Yid, a Yid is a, is . That was the . A Yid does not do the war. you have to go to the . You have to go to the world. So you're going down, but it's not, it's not a fight with you. You are higher. A Yid is higher from them. That was the Sicha. one of the things that in the Sicha the Rebbe said. The Rebbe said, the is given Moshiach that, uh, was Moshiach in our generation, and it was . It was already revealed in the . And it wasn't just a boat. The Rebbe said that's why it could be the Simcha, even though the classic says, only then after Moshiach. But it could have all now Simcha. And interesting is, the Rebbe, I'm telling you some unofficially, amongst ourselves, it could be a little bit open. The Rebbe was very, very careful things that was the Rebbe said in a farbrengen or things that the Rebbe was maggiya and went to the newspapers, and things that the Rebbe said, um, during the week. But the Rebbe, everyone was very, very careful. Certain things the Rebbe said, or Yom Tov, and even in Yom Tov, the Rebbe was makpid to say it in

50:42 Speaker 1 a time that there's no other people. the famous sicha, the Rebbe staff maggiya. Look at the sichas. Um, and the Rebbe gave a whole kind of Chassidim. Rebbe said that he's using that opportunity, the beginning, close to the beginning of farbrengen before other people come to the farbrengen. And although I say they tell-

51:04 Speaker 6 The Lech Lecha has a bunch of sichas.

51:07 Speaker 1 Yeah.

51:08 Speaker 6 I'm gonna, I'm gonna explain to you 'cause after Tisha, a lot, a lot of people left.

51:12 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this, the Rebbe said in a farbrengen, in a sicha during the week that you have a video recorded, you have a voice now, uh, you recording video and all, the Rebbe wanted me to say it. I got

51:28 Speaker 6 So what he's trying to say?

51:29 Speaker 1 Yeah. We felt before the sicha, I personally, am my chaverim, felt so down. After the Rebbe finished the sicha, we felt there's no riots, there's no, there's no El Al mazeh. Who cares? We push it, felt in, like you say, in in the seventh heaven. The, the, the storms were still flying. It was still dangerous to go in the street. But the Gabbi asked, it was a tzvis of smokim. We were push it, the Rebbe picked us up, I felt that's one of the many experiences. When you have a farbrengen of the Rebbe, when you worked hard at farbrengen, I'm telling you, everyone is a yetzer tov, yetzer hara, right? But when you worked hard at farbrengen of the Rebbe, you felt . You're not gonna mess yourself up in shtusing, in a taivas, in shtusing. You just experience elokus with Chassidus. You just experience real, real elokus. And the Rebbe says, is gonna listen to a farbrengen of the Rebbe. Watch a farbrengen of the Rebbe. That is a proper acharone. And I mean acharone, watch with the proper acharone means that he's gonna put himself in a mode that right now is farbrengen with the Rebbe, and he's gonna hear it with a pnimius. He's gonna listen to the farbrengen with a pnimius. He's-- he could have the similar haargush. Or the same thing as sicha. You listen to a sicha. There's-- Rebbe says, there's sichas shows how the of the Rebbe. Maybe it's out of the discussion now. I could show you

53:15 Speaker 1 also from my experience, one word of the Rebbe, the Rebbe push it in one, one, literally one can make a whole maymer of one vote of the Rebbe. I could... My own experience, I could share to you, at least it's, uh, not for now, for this moment. But that's in sicha. In sicha and in which is very important. But there's a certain of like it says about Yitzchak's Kislev, that Chassidus is light and energy. If you wanna have light and energy, you have to s-watch a sicha of the Rebbe, a farbrengen. But you have to a little bit prepare yourself to be in the mood, to be in the matzav. When you put yourself in this matzav, even tov shin peh vav and unfortunately never is rechem to see the Rebbe in a gasby zekevey. But if he puts himself in, in the mood, he's gonna push it farbrengen with the Rebbe. It's gonna work out a different tusn. When the Rebbe tells him it's gonna, it's, it's gonna hop lik beim, it's gonna settle in his mind. It's, it's gonna be, it's gonna make a certain chakika, a certain engravement of thought of the Rebbe, and it's gonna work out differently. That's, uh, it's just a little bit experience. Another nekuda, the same neku-- Yeah. Uh, another in here that I see am such to this, another exa-- uh, from the same experience, the same, same vote. It was, um, I, I still, I speak like dummy before. When the Rebbe came back from

54:50 Speaker 1 the riots going, going on, so they had push it to make police an oses watching the whole pathway when the Rebbe cars come back, push it police and that schwarte should not Rebbe. I don't mean to say schwarte, you know, these above you have to be careful with racism. We're not get

55:13 Speaker 6 It's not the point. Yeah.

55:15 Speaker 1 It's not the point. It's, uh, people that, uh, will blame us with anti-Anti-Semite people. So anyway, so the Rebbe was standing, and the Rebbe's car came. It was oses watching the whole pathway, uh, policemans and oses. So then came out Beis Chayenu. Beis Chayenu, um, Beis Chayenu was recording the Rebbe say what the Rebbe did, farbrengens and full of them. Not gonna go into it. The Rebbe encouraged it very, very strong with a big chidush. Th-those years, the Rebbe encouraged my, my friend, Rebvo Kana, um, he's a qu- Uh, he, he was one of the people that worked on it. The Rebbe encouraged it midik. I'm not gonna go into it now.

55:57 Speaker 6 He got a, he got a-

55:58 Speaker 1 The pelitz

55:58 Speaker 6 ... from the Rebbe call him a father,

56:02 Speaker 1 It's not much crazy.

56:03 Speaker 6 I think the Rebbe had it-

56:04 Speaker 1 It's just funny

56:04 Speaker 6 ... the Rebbe had it in the Sidur, I think, uh, once or twice.

56:06 Speaker 1 Oh, oh, exactly, exactly So in Besht-- and now that relates to our, to my story.

56:12 Speaker 6 Oh, okay.

56:13 Speaker 1 So the Rebbe, the in Besht Hayenu that the Rebbe came back from the oil and we saw . It's a story in Tanakh that, uh, to show respect, you have . Fine. Can the Fabrengen after. We knew the Rebbe took the Besht Hayenu, the Rebbe read it in the Seder, that we used to go to the oil of the Philip Rebbe with the Besht Hayenu. The Rebbe read it and was positive you sat in the Rebbe's back of the Seder. So for sure the Rebbe saw this. It wasn't just part of the article, like, you know, sometimes you have, uh, one or a paragraph you blow up and sit, people see it. So it was . The Rebbe in the Fabrengen said like this, Shabbos at seven. You can check it out in the for sure. Rebbe said, "A Yid, a Yid, a Yid could afford ." Rebbe said, "The yetzer hara comes over to person and it tries to, you know, make him crazy." So the Rebbe says the story of the Alter Rebbe's Hasid. The Hasid of the Alter Rebbe that he was a rich person. He, he was... Lived in Peterburg, and he was a... The, the yetzer hara came to make him crazy. He used to say, "You're starting with me? You know, I'm high. I am a Hasid of the Alter Rebbe. I have connections with the government 'cause I'm Peterburg." He's the Hasid that the, the Alter Rebbe went out of jail, supposed to go to his house. And

57:37 Speaker 1 the mistake, Alter Rebbe went to the Misnagid's house. According to the Rebbe in his Fabrengen, but then he could, it was. It was on Yichud. So the Rebbe said, "If you're healthy, if you're a gezunter kop, if you're a, a normal person, if you're healthy, you don't put your head in shtusim." 'Cause a Yid could afford . We all smiled. We understood. But the Rebbe said that in, in the Besht Hayenu, he wrote it about the Rebbe.

58:01 Speaker 6 About the Rebbe.

58:02 Speaker 1 But, but the Rebbe, the Rebbe took this opportunity and that every Yid, Rebbe said even the president of United States, if he's gonna take a person that's for honor, he's gonna run in front of him. He's gonna . He's gonna run in front of him. You're gonna say, "What do you mean? You take taxes, people's taxes, and you, and you spend on such a thing?" There, the president of the United State, but a Yid could have 50 people running in front of him, honoring him. You walk out of this Fabrengen. Yeah. You're in the Fabrengen. Then all thought of the Rebbe of Teshuvah, Shabbos at seven, for a ... The Teshuvah is a completely different perspective. The expectations from yourself is a different expectation. When you're gonna make a little achlata, you're gonna do this, and you're gonna... You think about yourself. How can you become a mamash with in gants? I wanna say that the experience of being by the Rebbe or listening Fabrengen to the Rebbe, and even to the Pliynius, is a little bit, take it a little bit more serious. Because it picks you up. It's a eight-year-old. Let's say-

59:12 Speaker 6 As you sit back, uh, you mentioned before, the Alef, the whole, the Sicha during the riots.

59:17 Speaker 1 Yeah.

59:18 Speaker 6 So if you watch the video, you see, you know, the way it worked those years is that there was a Sicha in the kasicha, then there was dancing.

59:25 Speaker 1 Oh.

59:26 Speaker 6 It's something the Rebbe said, there was da-dancing.

59:29 Speaker 1 Oh.

59:29 Speaker 6 I mean, it could happen every other day, but whatever. And, but you see that it doesn't make sense. Outside, there's the riots. Inside, 70, Alef, Alef, the Alef Tansen. So you're saying that, uh, this is what, this is what the Rebbe was doing with the Elul, and this is what Rebbe's doing now also. The-

59:44 Speaker 1 Exactly.

59:45 Speaker 6 You just have to, you just have to access it.

59:48 Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.

59:51 Speaker 6 Okay. So I wanted to ask you, I'm sure you have many more D'var Torah and more, more of this. So I-- From what I know and, uh, from what I hear so far is that the Sichas that you were, that you were there, you weren't just there. You heard everything the Rebbe said. So I spoke to a Yid today, and I told him that I am, uh, gonna have a conversation, a Fabrengen with you. He says, "Oh, I remember him from Chazon." Someone, someone around your age. I don't know if mamish, but I remember him from Chazon. So what is that all about? You're, you're part, you're part of Chazon? What, what was that?

1:00:30 Speaker 1 Look, I tell you the way it worked. After the Rebbe's Fabrengen, Shabbos, most Fabrengen was Shabbos. So Rebbe Leibele all time, with Chazon. He met Chazon in English, but that was only the best Chazon. Um, 'cause first, the Rebbe Leibele when I was in yeshiva. So someone had sod nekudes to add, he always welcome anyone.

1:01:02 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

1:01:03 Speaker 1 And, and so in, in the Chazon of Rebbe Leibele, I used to know a sod nekudes. And after the Fabrengen, so it was Motzaei Shabbos, I'm gonna say that there was, uh, three publication coming out on Rebbe's Fabrengen. Mechallas. Three, four betsen. Was Motzaei Shabbos, it was, um, especially later, developed later, the two thousand and eleven, that, uh, I flew onto Motzaei Shabbos right away, as soon as possible, went to the Rebbe's Fabrengen. So ca- It was a new institutions called, um, Fax Hasicha. And Fax Hasicha was a few bochurim my age, more or less. Um, Moshe Melamed was in his basement, actually. And Motel Telsner, he was in charge of the logistic to shit, to fax it. Then was a fax, it again say, let's see it. So the machine of fax was before internet. And then, uh, I came a little bit later, but I did it together with, uh, Rav Chaim Shmuel Mintz, the head of JLI. So the way it worked, that I wrote one part of the farbrengen, like nekudos of the farbrengen, like few nekudos of the farbrengen. He wrote the other, the other parts, the other nekudos of the farbrengen. I checked out his, and he checked out mine, just to make sure that, uh, they have make sense. And we wrote, B'nei Muskan, we wrote how many sichas was in the farbrengen, and then he wrote the peal. Besides the few paragraphs of the techin of the sicah, was, uh, he wrote the peal and, um, what

1:02:43 Speaker 1 time the farbrengen ended.

1:02:45 Speaker 6 So you did this after Chazzan?

1:02:48 Speaker 1 Yeah, Chazzan was afternoon.

1:02:51 Speaker 6 Oh.

1:02:51 Speaker 1 Chazzan, so Chazzan after the Rebbe's farbrengen, Rebbe Zalman used to stand in sam samtim and pray the Chazzan.

1:02:56 Speaker 6 'Cause the farbrengens those years were shorter.

1:03:00 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Um, and then, and then Sun- then Sunday came out a long version of the Biltemuge, it was written after Mimetek, uh, Techin Kotzo, and another Belar-- not another Belar, later on it was also faxed to sicah, Roshei Dvorim. Roshei Dvorim wrote a sicah more bariches. And so-

1:03:25 Speaker 6 By the time now the Beis came out that the Roshei Dvorim is basically a hanacha.

1:03:29 Speaker 1 That's right. That's right. The Sicha Skedesh that came out two blue, and they're still existing, two blue sets. Uh, a set of two story blues, that's Biltemuge of Roshei Dvorim. So what I did for myself, after Sunday, when it came out, the techin, the Techin Kotzo, then Roshei Dvorim, I used to ma- uh, write to myself any pieces that I think they missed or even the say of the Dvorim. Sometimes they wrote, they put it together, it should be more clear, but I wanted to have the original the way the Rebbe said it. And ikar a lot of isofis, I have a lot of hanachos from Tov Shin, Mimet Esnun, um, ikar of Mimet Esnun, that I wrote against the Muge's, uh, full agois, isofis that, um, what, what they didn't write, and changes from things that they wrote, the things that not the way the Rebbe said it, like tikunim, well. And then, Yem Schtishin used to give the Rebbe the long sicah, the Biltemuge, and, uh, the Rebbe was magi'et. And then Tov Shin, uh, the bi- the Brechal was the takzir, the, my, the, the, however, the short version we wrote right after Motzei Shabbos. So the Rebbe encouraged it very much. Very interesting, two things. First of all, I remember when it started, Tov Shin Alef, I wasn't then involved yet. The Rebbe was magi'et the first time. And Chassidim said, even though it's not Muge, the Rebbe wouldn't encourage that's a nekuda. And some came to the Rebbe by Dallas.

1:04:55 Speaker 1 There's a recorded video. He said that he-- the Rebbe gave out the Chatzoka Sunday, that he gave some donation, gave a machine to make it quicker. The Rebbe added something interesting. The Rebbe said to make sure that, uh, I know remember the lashon, but the techin was to make sure I hid on, shouldn't be chilul Shabbos, shouldn't be any... In case it'll be mehadrin in the nekuda of Shabbos. So we would talk to my father, "What does the Rebbe, what's, uh..." Obviously, he made it after the zman. We said Boruch Hamavdil. So since then, we made Havdalah first, 'cause there's a sort nekuda not to do melacha d'oraisa. The Rebbe, that we hid on himself not to do a melacha b'rabim before Havdalah. So one of us made Havdalah, and then we wrote right away the techzin. Hagapanim, this was one time. The second time the Rebbe was magi'a, but it wasn't on the kr- on the, on the pump, not, wasn't on our paper. On Shabbos VaYesh Tov Shin on Beis. Um, but we didn't get it because it wasn't on the actual, on our paper. It was a general thing for the Manichim, uh, message, but the sicah. And then the last farbrengen so far, Tov Sh- Vayakhel, Eisatoh. Vayakhel, Tov Shin on Beis, it's kind of interesting it was Gaporotz. I was the only one to write the sicah because my cousin, Shm- uh, Frank Shmon Minz, broke his foot. It's kind of technically so he couldn't be close in the farbrengen

1:06:19 Speaker 1 enough to write hanacha.

1:06:21 Speaker 6 So you wrote the Rebbe's-

1:06:22 Speaker 1 Gaporotz writes it. The whole takzir. We gave it to the Rebbe, like every Motzei Shabbos, and then mit amal. Rebbe was magi'et. Rebbe sent it back.

1:06:32 Speaker 6 On Sunday.

1:06:32 Speaker 1 And, uh... No, Motzei Shabbos.

1:06:34 Speaker 6 Motzei Shabbos.

1:06:35 Speaker 1 Motzei Shabbos. We used to do, we give it to the Rebbe right away. Right away when we had it ready, we gave it to the Rebbe, and we sent it to all Shluchim, Chassidim, whoever was had a fax to accept it. We gave it to the Rebbe. So usually there was no response. But then this Motzei Shabbos, the Rebbe was magi'a, the Rebbe sent it right away out, and they reprinted with a new version. And unfortunately, Chatzot Halailah happened on Monday afternoon. So Chassidim said that the Rebbe wanted to-- the Rebbe knew that it's not gonna be the long Muge like a sicah. The Rebbe wanted an opportunity to be magi'a the sicah at least in the, in the general version that that was the sicah.

1:07:13 Speaker 6 And that's the last thing that the Rebbe was magi'a, this Eisatoh.

1:07:16 Speaker 1 The Rebbe, yeah.

1:07:16 Speaker 6 I think. And, um, also that the whole Vayakhel farbrengen on Beis is not, n- not a farbrengen.

1:07:25 Speaker 1 Maybe. Maybe. I remember Benjamin Klein, the Chabad was a big talker.

1:07:29 Speaker 6 Okay.

1:07:30 Speaker 1 He was into the teva. He kept secrets. So I remember after Chatzot Halailah farbreng, like exceptional thing, and he said, "Everyone knows I'm not a big, uh, speaker, but I could tell you one thing." He had an incident he had with the Rebbe. Shliach, Chassid went to the Rebbe a question. Rebbe gave answer. And then, and then the situation came up again, but a little bit different. So he asked the Rebbe, because the situation is different, is the, what should he do? Like what the Rebbe said before or different? The Rebbe didn't answer. So he figured out because situation changed, so he did s- he did not what the Rebbe answered him first time, something else. But- And right after the Rebbe asked him, what's happening with this, uh, this . Possibly he asked, what happened ? So he told the Rebbe the-- what he knew from the passuk, that since the Rebbe didn't answer and the situation changed, so he did that differently. Rebbe said, became serious, and Rebbe said, "Listen, you have to know that when I give something, a message, that's the message you should always go along with it, even if you think the situation changed." That was the techum. And that was years ago, but I'm saying that's the techum. So many of my friends spoke from that, spoke from that from his heart. Because the second Kipurs, and he's like, "Come, come." And I remember this fabrengen, he said, That's the last message of the Rebbe. And if you

1:09:12 Speaker 1 look in this morning, the Rebbe spoke two points. One point is about Mashiach. That's the Kimus Goli as the Ruchnius already started meain of it, and that's very, very strong basis. And the second nekuda is The Rebbe said that even someone that has to be st- strong, like a father, that he has to have some nekuda of toughness. That the atom, you have to go more in nekuda of positive, of And the Rebbe even covered certain areas. If you look in the Rebbe's fabrengen, the Rebbe spoke about That the reason why you do it is for a right reason. But the Rebbe said, over here, you have to show that you pretend you have to make a mechayim, you have to... The Rebbe didn't use the same says. But the Rebbe, the techum was that even if you think that you, that you have to be If you look in the sicha, so he said, the Rebbe said in the fabrengen in Rabbi, and that's, that's the two nekudas that you have to stick up to it completely. Anyway, that's, uh, I was able to be magiya, that to write the sicha, that the Rebbe was magiya for this fabrengen.

1:10:30 Speaker 6 Right. And also the whole style of the fabrengen was very different than, than typical for that Kupa, right?

1:10:37 Speaker 1 Yeah. That's right, that's right. You have to alt kop. In other words, the Rebbe spoke one nekuda, usually. Yeah, it was-- that was-- the more fabrengen was easier to follow or something was much harder to follow. Depends, you know, sometimes we had a sus, in regard we understood it better. Sometimes it was, uh, much harder to understand. um, the interesting nekuda, the, the thing it applies after speaking about the fabrengens. You know, in a certain sense, was more by the Rebbe before and even especially I'm saying, the emesis this time started between the chever of the youths, of the Rebbe and the And the nekuda said over here that you felt the, the earlier it is, you felt more that the Rebbe shows you, he knows you, shows you, he gives you attention, he gives you his time, he gives you etzes And then the time passed. Kiviyachol, you thought that the Rebbe gets echo. Also technically the Rebbe got busy, more chassidim, more institutions, more meizes. The Rebbe said, "Here we don't have time." I wanna tell you something interesting. That I saw then, and I was thinking about it then, and I see it even after Gimel Tammuz. That the nekuda is this, that even though the Rebbe got echo and more touch, detached kiviyachol, but the Rebbe had a stronger haspaia in chassidim in a individual eif nusach. I have few interesting begmoias that I, by Dallas. By Dallas. It was a split moment, but the, the look of the Rebbe, a

1:12:39 Speaker 1 kuck. One kuck of the Rebbe could change a Bochur completely. Or especially if the Bochur made a shickle achane, and he went for Dallas, and he made a little bit achane before he went, the Bochur could able push it to change his life in And I think the same thing, a Bochur goes to the Ohel. He goes after achane, and he, and he realize that as-- that he's now by the Rebbe, like the Rebbe's Ohel is a yichidus, and in this moment he connects to the Rebbe, he could walk out of the Ohel with the same ergesh and the same shinuy, change in his life like a Bochur by, a Bochur by Dallas. So in Dallas. And even in sichas that the Rebbe spoke Beraabi. Interesting experience. I'm not gonna say names 'cause maybe it's not nice, but the techum habedavur is very interesting. I was by the Rebbe. The Rebbe said one sentence in a sicha about growing a beard, and I know three chassidim, chassidim close to the Rebbe, whatever you gonna call him, mekoravim, that for, for some reason they didn't have a beard, and they were close to the Rebbe, and they had yichidus with the Rebbe, in all the years, and didn't change it to have a beard. When the Rebbe said this statement in one fabrengen, in the middle of a fabrengen, you could check it out, I know three of these started even, started to grow a beard. The Rebbe said in a fabrengen, the Rebbe said-- I

1:14:09 Speaker 1 remember this k- today, kayem ad-day. The Rebbe said in a fabrengen that he think that he's gonna go to businesses without a beard, he's gonna get... You know, he looks... I'm not saying the losh, but the techum, he looks so more, no more normal, and people are gonna give him business, gonna let him out money. The Rebbe says, "But you realize a beard is a gimel has'rachamim. A gimel to kind of digna is a tzedakah min has'rachamim. So forget, you're gonna have tzlochi even in business." That's all the Rebbe said in the fabrengen. And after the fabrengen, it was three of them that started to grow a beard, and the Rebbe gave them a lot of attention by Dallas. The Rebbe gave tzedakah in Dallas as a encouragement for this. So you see that the Rebbe you know, the Rebbe But at the same time, the Rebbe tzedakah chassidim echad. But it's telling us, it's a lot of telling us that we have to just tune in to the Rebbe's wave kind of. If, if we tune in to the Rebbe's wave, so we're gonna get who the Rebbe is. Whether it be-- At least who the Rebbe is like us. You could live on the same, uh, on the same page kind of. Let's say, um, since just one, uh, interesting incident.

1:15:30 Speaker 7 There's something here. I remember, um... I remember once hearing from you, uh, a nice, uh, with a, with a fly.

1:15:43 Speaker 1 Oh, wow. It's okay. Thank you for reminding me.

1:15:45 Speaker 7 I, I don't know if this has to do with anything that you're saying now, but is, uh, something that you-

1:15:53 Speaker 1 for this story. And it also has sort of a right? It's a

1:15:59 Speaker 7 Hundred percent.

1:16:06 Speaker 1 So a lot of times I stick and I feel that, uh, could you speak open or not? Oh, you know, I officially recording. You could all... You could cut off pieces. That's, uh, like the Rebbe writes in a I'm gonna rely on you wisdom. Uh, we know that Lubavitch is like many, many levels, right? From go to, and then you have many, many levels in between until right? And one of the the Rebbe himself did it as such I think. You see? Rebbe wanted to make from Yiddish kite. Lubavitch is gonna be closed-minded people that only Rebbe picks. If the Rebbe would not first the Rebbe when I was small. The Rebbe open up-

1:17:16 Speaker 7 So you say, you say by design, the Rebbe made it that you could be-

1:17:19 Speaker 1 No.

1:17:20 Speaker 7 -part of Lubavitch and, you know, but the, uh, where you're holding or whatever different levels of the, uh, of the-

1:17:26 Speaker 1 Yeah. But the Emes is, honestly, the Emes is that this of people that are far from Yiddish kite, and it's hard for them to make the steps to become uh, you know, to become a full Hasid of the Rebbe. The Rebbe opened the, the Chabad, this part of of the Rebbe. So obviously, agent, agent a kinder on Lubavitch kids don't belong to this, uh, they should be in the, in the top, the peak, right? The of the Rebbe, very of Rebbe. There's, um, Rashi says in Rashi says, um, that Moshe Rabbeinu when he passed away, Torah is Moshe Rabbeinu. Then Rashi says, when he passed away, that, uh, Israel even cried after him. But it doesn't say Rashi adds, Israel. Not all the hidden were crying. it says Israel. Says the Rebbe freaked, I mean. The Torah praising Moshe Rabbeinu. Comes Rashi says, "Uh, no. Uh, not exactly. Moshe Rabbeinu, not everyone was crying after Moshe Rabbeinu. After Aharon everyone was crying." But it's negative. It's not like Rashi already wrote it before . If you're praising Moshe Rabbeinu, leave it alone. What's the point of view? To bring out sounds like negative. Says the Rebbe now, it says in the Midrash that Moshe Rabbeinu is Moshe, and Emes is... Chesed is Aharon, and Emes is Moshe. Aharon was was changing things but the mid of Moshe Rabbeinu is Emes. Emes. So that's the Moshe Rabbeinu. That he was not budging. No kuntsin. Just Emes. So I have an interesting experience right? So I asked

1:19:28 Speaker 1 him, "What do you think? What is Chabad? Is Chabad Emes, Aharon or Moshe? Is Chabad Chesed or Emes? In other words, what's the you learn from this, from this, uh, union?" So interesting to hear the response. Most of the cases say Chabad. I mean- -being a Benion. Huh? Chesed, Aharon. You know, smiling to everyone, accepting everything . Yeah. So I say, uh, one second. Let's see what the Rebbe says. Rebbe in a spoke about it, like in the name of Hashem, Chesed or Emes. So Rebbe says in the chapter d'alef, in Parashat Berachos Rebbe says, the Rebbe says like this, "Emes. Chesed. For yourself, use Emes. Have expectation, demand from yourself. From another Yid, be smile to him, accept him . At the end is . But you that it's a of the Rebbe it is . And I tell you, the Emes, one of the that changed when we were coming to the Rebbe, being from seventy, getting involved in the Rebbe's Yid, that was one of the things that changed. When you're outsider or you're middle of fifty-fifty, like, and coming, you see more the Rebbe's Chesed. Rebbe's Not before you hear such sharpness, the, the strength and the sharpness of the Emes. But you get more involved, the more answers of the Rebbe. Tzadet kids of the Rebbe. Like, oh, when the Rebbe wants, the expectation the Rebbe wants from Hasidim is be in a way from all the Weltische Eden. We're talking about, uh, great Rossum and all the Weltische

1:21:22 Speaker 1 Eden. The first Eden that Shemetero Mitzvah. Even the expectation of the Rebbe in every aspect, even Tznius, the Rebbe said, "How come they make Mitzvah dance?" You know what Mitzvah dance is, where they have the Chasidim and now they shred it in a Tznius, the Geffen. According to the Rebbe's expectation, not even Tznius. How come they do it? Because that one, one answer of the Rebbe, and many areas, you see the expectation, even a Nigleh, even a Chasidus, Kol, Tilum, Kol Hapeh, Kol HaYechidus Habachim. Not about the expectations from the Rebbe, that's the Nekudah, that chat zich, himself, in others is a, have a bigger dimension. For himself, it's completely Emes. High expectation, Yerushalayim. And so, anyway, I thought this is a point. But-

1:22:10 Speaker 7 The Rebbe also, it's also, um, you can, uh, think about this deeper. Sometimes there's a Yenem that also needs, uh, Emesher, and sometimes someone Tzadik and he's a little more Adam, whatever. Yeah.

1:22:25 Speaker 1 Hundred percent.

1:22:27 Speaker 7 It's not the black and white. It goes together. It's two Yenem.

1:22:31 Speaker 1 Hundred percent. Hundred percent. Hundred percent. Give you an interesting illustration, you've already heard the Rebbe's, you know, experience by the Rebbe. Interesting illustration that was Tov Sh- Teshuvah on Tov Shemeim Tes. Now, Shak passed away a few months before. Passed away Vav Hadash, Tov Shemeim Tes. Now, Shak used to be in charge of Temchet Mimim because the Philokira Rebbe appointed him. So he was better than Nig-- He was Sai money, Sai Ruchnius, because the Philokira Rebbe appointed him. Now, Shak passed away, so Betev HaDvarim, uh, you know, uh, everyone is pulling the string to his, uh, side. V'chol V'chol. I think about as, uh, politics, you know, even Zog, what's politics that, uh, everyone made a Shidduch between, uh, shekel, lying, and, uh, Chanuf, flattering. And they made a Shidduch, and the baby was called politics. So , Hagbahanim. So, so the Rebbe said a Sichah Teshuvah, he says to the Pnim, the Rebbe made a Seder in Lubavitch. Mamish, interesting, Rebbe, put things in to be about Ruchniyah, about Gashmiyah, about includes, well, I'm not even going to the details. And the Sichah, the Rebbe spoke merely the cases about the Rayichat of Teshuvah Elul, to Fabrengen, celebration. Mamish, the Rebbe said, "Lo Yom Tovim LeYisrael Chamisha Asar B'Elul." Should be such a Simcha on the same scale of the good of Chazal, Lo Yom Tovim LeYisrael Chamisha Asar B'Elul. The Rebbe said... At the same same time, in the Sichah, in the tech of Sichah, the Rebbe was, in the Sichah himself, you

1:24:08 Speaker 1 had Chesed and Emes. Very positive, but very Emes. Put things in by dollars. We saw something very interesting. Maybe she saw it in other dollars also, but Rebbe gave her the... But in this Sichah, I saw it very strong. When woman came, a child, or a Mekurev, the Rebbe smiled, V'chol V'chol. When Atomim came, always the Rebbe became very serious, Kimat always. In this dollars, the Rebbe gave out any and all member of Temchet Mimim, the Rebbe gave such a sharp look. I'm telling you it was Mamish Nisht Gebleiben. And Atkedekach was a Inger Man. I'm not, obviously, I'm not gonna say names. It's not, she's in here. That he used to work in Temchet Mimim before, and he went to business, Nisht Geitzter. When he came by dollars, mitamor, the Rebbe, that such a sharp look. You know, the Emes. Temchet Mimim is Zachar, that Zachar, that Zachar, unser eigen a kind. It's our own children. The expectations should be Pashut, Yerushalayim learning. Now I'm going back to the story with the, with the fly. After this Hagdameh, you see the Mashal, where you see it very strong is the Rebbe speak to kids. When the Rebbe speaks to children, um, Mamish, very interesting. Today, you're looking for psychologists, for therapists, for, for this Chacham, the other Chacham. I'm not Mevatel. I'm not putting down, 'cause sometimes you need it. That's not my Nekudah. But the Chinuch, we have from the Rebbe. And what I'm Dach V'Loomer from them, the Rebbe spoke to children

1:25:48 Speaker 1 directly with our Benim and Motza'im. The Rebbe spoke to children. I think a few years that I see, every parents, every Mechanech should Pashut learn the Rebbe's Sichas, the Rebbe spoke to kids. Is there, are you a Mechanech kids? Then share Shabbos table. Let them have Vort from him. You want to direct it with a story, direct it with a story before, a story after, make it dramatic, make it interesting. But the, but the medicine, the medicine inside, besides the chocolate around it, should be the way the Rebbe speaks to kids, Kipshutei. What do you see over them? Mitah Nechot, very positive. Neshomer, Chelek Elikei Miman, Mamish. Mitah Sheini, Pashut, Yerushalayim, Kipshutei. You have a Keppah Mizvah, but you eat Torah to, to make a Brocha properly. But very Rayiche Nechudas. So now that I tell, I think, I know the Rebbe didn't speak to Chasidim and to Bochurim in such a language as the Rebbe spoke to children. Maybe, maybe because officially you graduated. You already have it. You don't have to go back to the basics. But that's the basic. If you, if you didn't get it in the basic, you have to do it at 18 years old or 40 years old. To take the Rebbe's Sichas to children, and earn those Mitafnimiyus, and that's a sort Nekudah of a sort of combination of Chesed V'emes. Mitah Dechot, very positive. Megileh positive That you, you have a . The bottom line, the expectations is The Rebbe doesn't mention Shpitz Chabad things in

1:27:33 Speaker 1 this series.

1:27:35 Speaker 7 For children. Yeah.

1:27:37 Speaker 1 To kids, yeah. The, the Rebbe doesn't. Yeah. The Rebbe speaks healthy, very healthy, strong, healthy Establish with the Oy megafitznis. for children.

1:27:57 Speaker 7 There's also- -all the rallies also were, you know, this time, I don't know.

1:28:04 Speaker 1 Exactly. the Rebbe spoke to children, right? And then another nekude, um, nekude. In another letter, adults also in -

1:28:20 Speaker 7 Can't figure out the fly, by the way.

1:28:22 Speaker 1 And that's exactly I'm getting to.

1:28:23 Speaker 7 All right.

1:28:25 Speaker 1 the nekude is that, um, we have to also chill ourself our of our life as a child also. Not only yoni of, of Shpitz Chabad, which is important, like I said before, the Rebbe did give a positive, not all the negative comes, but also some positive comes with Shpitz Chabad. stories, But you have to have this like the Rebbe had a line, Rebbe So one of the nekudes is that the Rebbe a lot of times spoke, we felt. The Rebbe speaks about a child, but the Rebbe may miss describe himself. And that's the story that I'm getting to. It was one of the rallies, in those years. And th-this year, the Rebbe said like Ribi Godol, um, during the week, like besides Shabbason, like every opportunity. So I came, came back to the Rebbe, the Rebbe told him, "To rally." They gave me just usually, um, Bianca Left was the translator. After the sikher, he used to translate in English. And it was-- And one, one of the-- The Rebbe was, you know, surprisingly turned into a rally. So the only one who was there, Avraham

1:29:59 Speaker 7 Avraham

1:30:00 Speaker 1 He was there. So he had to translate. Yeah.

1:30:03 Speaker 7 That's when the... At the sikher, the Rebbe explained the mission of right?

1:30:09 Speaker 1 Yeah. It was also-- I saw, yeah, I saw him with the men. One of the sikher in this time, I don't remember who was the translator. In middle of the sikher, the Rebbe was standing on the stand and listen to the translation in English after the Rebbe said the sikher. And a fly went by, and the Rebbe stand there. A fly. So the Rebbe made it The Rebbe made a motion to chase away the fly. So for Boca, it was very interesting, like So for interesting reason, because Shabbos-

1:30:42 Speaker 7 That's a, that's a interesting thing that you never thought the Rebbe did. Yeah, yeah.

1:30:46 Speaker 1 Yeah. Thank you. But the Rebbe, any nekude of the Rebbe, we, you know, because we love the Rebbe, so any nekude-

1:30:54 Speaker 7 Well, because also that the Rebbe-- Ev-ev- also everything that the Rebbe is exact.

1:31:00 Speaker 1 Exactly.

1:31:01 Speaker 7 When, when, when the Rebbe comes in, if I'm doing it every time, it's usually the same, like e-exact.

1:31:06 Speaker 1 Yeah. Hundred percent. Hundred percent.

1:31:08 Speaker 7 Yeah. W-what I'm-

1:31:09 Speaker 1 Hundred percent.

1:31:10 Speaker 7 Yeah.

1:31:10 Speaker 1 Hundred percent. Hundred percent. I'm not gonna go into it now, but I saw something, that it took me time to catch. But once I caught a lot of details that the Rebbe was, like, kind of hiding, but the Rebbe was very interesting that the Rebbe was-- didn't make a but if you to see it and to realize it, was very interesting. It's like you say, every So it was interesting. Back to the start, it was very interesting. Shabbos, you could check it out, the sikher. Maybe it's The Rebbe said, a kind race knows The child knows there's only two things, And the Rebbe explained, uh, I'm not saying the how does he know exists? He said, that was the same When he makes a motion, a motion with his hand to chase-

1:32:36 Speaker 7 A fly.

1:32:36 Speaker 1 -away the fly, or the Rebbe said, or another motion. In this case, flying, making the fly with a-- blowing it up. So then he knows that he exists 'cause by a child, he's only the So then that's that the Rebbe is the ultimate of after all the I could show you with one word of the Rebbe, But the and the connection to the like a child And he responded the other pinek.

1:33:16 Speaker 7 Okay, so you're talking about sayushain. But what's another-- I mean, are there other nekudos of, uh, we see like, um, the hadgasha from the Rebbe in Shamaim, basic of the Shamaim that, uh, you saw. We see.

1:33:31 Speaker 1 So first, this nekuda I said before, like most of the sifre of the Rebbe speaks to kids. You see it very, very, very strong. Um, the nekude, another nekude that poshet... I'm gonna explain myself. That sometimes I feel Chassidus expectations is obviously bitu b'metsias. Or belashon ma'amarim is yichudthai Elohim. Yichudthai Elohim means that nekuda is the only thing existing. The metzias of that does not take a smachim, me'ale the metzias of Yezor is not take a smachim. But in other words, sometimes you speak about a certain level of kedusha that you work on yourself, and you-- or you wanna finish shacharis, you wanna feel chashuv in a inner of kedusha. So bitu b'metsias says, "Oh, you have to even go out even of this metzias of kedusha." Right? Metat sheini, uh, if I'm explaining myself correct, if, if not, explain to me. But the nekuda is that bitu b'metsias is not just have a shleimus in kedusha, even in go out of your metzias and care about another Yid, l'moshe. Go out of your ruchniusdike dages and shleimus in, and work upon another Yid. It's one aspect of it.

1:34:48 Speaker 7 The Rebbe likes talking about that a lot.

1:34:50 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:34:51 Speaker 7 The, the Rebbe likes talking about that a lot, like, as a, as a what, listening chavling in that, that, um, whatever, if, if you have time, you're gonna sit and, uh, l-l-lern a chavis chassidus, like that, the Rebbe like speaking to those that have a lot of shleimus, like they also should-

1:35:08 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:35:08 Speaker 7 -bring in their shleimus and then, then tune up onto somebody others, whatever, yeah.

1:35:12 Speaker 1 Right. Right. Right. So there's a certain nekude that a certain b'von is that you see in the Rebbe, the Rebbe always b'vons also this nekude, in other words, not forget about the basics. Even though it's bitu b'metsias and everything, but to make sure to b'von the, the basics. So on top of it, you do have to work on yourself and work on serving Hashem. So even go out , go out of your metzias completely, l'moshe. And maybe if the Rebbe very avoda l'kimayme, alif yud chet nikul shmon sefim, taf shin ta zayin. It's a musa-- ki mar musa l'kimayme. But the Rebbe said over there in beginning, interesting statement, where he says, "Even though we speak about bitu b'metsias completely and how to care about your dages, but that's ki mar, the techina is that after you have you metzias of kedusha, which is you have a sutni in avodas Hashem, then you go even higher." But in other words, it's not taking away from the shleimus, from the basics. L'moshe, the sifre of the Rebbe speaking to children, you see it's very clear that the Rebbe develops the s-- the basic Yiras Shamayim in Chassidus Shenefesh, and then the Rebbe goes even higher than these, these chashus of cholu, cholu bitu, bitu , but I wanna make out maybe it's a different nekuda, I have to explain more. I'm just saying Ramish and, uh, Nachum, this nekuda. But one of the nekuda is interesting, that when a bocher wrote to the Rebbe that he

1:36:39 Speaker 1 put himself into learning, the Rebbe poshet showed this bocher a maurik and a chassidus. Not always. Like I said before, the Rebbe from bochurim expect they should do things on their own. Not like I'm a puva yetaf, you always smile to him. It's a child, you know, from din and hafchach nisha, I don't have to lick you. I don't have to... But there was some individual bochurim that the Rebbe showed him and then learned on a crowd to a yotzer and a chaver. Not as a-- a friend of mine. He wrote to the Rebbe that, um, that he learned Gmor Shabbos, put himself into sutim, pele, whatever, learned Shabbos taf shin lun, taf shin lun yeshiva. The Rebbe wrote him a whole message, "Chei loch leer ayseh mechol dano, shlich." He wrote to the Rebbe, "Learn twomayim al peh." The Rebbe wrote, wrote to him, "Mitzada atzmei, gor hamach asru achrav." In other words, the sut nekude that the Rebbe encodes very strong on the avoda of a seudah mesuda, the avoda of putting yourself into learning, Yiras Shamayim. And on top of it, you have a nekuda of mechaneh zeh et geneini, mechaneh zeh et elo mava. A nekuda, sut nekuda of forgetting about go out of even the shleimus of kedusha and, and go to man din v'hagbaleh. But sometimes if you have stage two, you have to make sure to not forget about stage one, if I'm explaining myself correctly. There's some interesting nekuda. The saf shlimon tes. That's a kind of

1:38:10 Speaker 1 fearsome mission that, uh, for some people they like to have. And they never-- So, so they, the Rebbe gave a bracha for the guests, which means tish-- the Rebbe said every night su-sinchat, uh, Sukkos, bracha sheveref sus, that every night the Rebbe spoke to Chassidim as maarik, very shmakes es. I described one of them before, a chalamet Sukkos, the nigleh, uh, was mitonish land on Shabbos. The-- And it was very, very heiche sicha. The Rebbe showed the guests his tash, his cholu. So it was, um, taf shin mem tes, it was, um, the Rebbe went to the sukkah to give a bracha to the guests. So the Rebbe, so the, the Rebbe, I don't know, it's like the Rebbe was mechabed a guest gi-- and the biggest kibud, the Rebbe went to their sukkah to give them a bracha. The sukkah was the sukkah in the chatzos of sim seventy. So the Rebbe walks in, the Rebbe wanted to see the all, the whole length from, from, uh, halfway until, uh, the end of the chatzos. And the Rebbe went over to Moshe Uslavsky, alav hashalom, the father of the Rov, alav yicha chein, you should lead him.

1:39:18 Speaker 7 Moshe.

1:39:18 Speaker 1 See? Moshe. Uh, so the Rebbe was insisting he should go in front of the Rebbe, kind of. So he used to go like this.

1:39:25 Speaker 7 That was, that was the seyde, yeah.

1:39:26 Speaker 1 Was the seyde. Anyway, and, and by the end of the sukkah, they made a stage. Made a stage with a stander, the stander facing to the guests, the whole length of sim seventy to the sukkah. Rebbe gave a bracha. The Rebbe comes into the sukkah. Mitaman, the Rebbe takes the stander. I was mamish next to the Rebbe. Rebbe takes the stander, instead of like you stand in front of the whole sukkah, pushing it aside. Beside is the wall of sim seventy, two and a half people there. Instead of speaking to the-- facing the whole crowd. It was like a wonder. But I was there a few minutes before, and I saw something interesting, unfortunately. They, they-- In the sukkah was lamps and wires, uh, light bulbs. And the light bulb with the wire fell down. Instead of, you know, sukkah fell down, not fell down completely, like, uh, it was hanging in front of, on top of the Rebbe's stand. So one Hochem decided, you know, the Rebbe, he, he picked it up to, to organize it, to have it his, because it, uh, it's coming of the Rebbe. It's muktzeh, and people were yelling against him. It was there . Yeah, muktzeh. But weiser he decided he's allowed to do it, unfortunately. Begash before the Rebbe couldn't see it. And I have muktzeh now-

1:40:45 Speaker 8 Rebbe wasn't there.

1:40:46 Speaker 1 Wasn't, Rebbe wasn't there. But, uh, then we saw the Rebbe Pshe took the stand and put it, like, it kind of not even know from the muktzeh that they did, give Yochanan the Rebbe's cover. So it's a interesting, uh... I suppose the Moshe, I didn't see it in any Yoman, and I myself, I didn't never, uh, m-fasten it, uh, in Chassid.

1:41:09 Speaker 8 Ah.

1:41:10 Speaker 1 It's, uh, just one dugme, there's thousands of them, the heroes of the Rebbe. I'm not gonna go into it. It's not the place. But the Rebbe's, um, a, a interesting dugme, chavivus of a mitzvah. A small in, um, a small, it's a small nekuda, but it says, I am, am, a tnuat tzaddik, because you can hear shemes koil. Yeah. The star- So I would have been wondering, what's the Pshe tnuat tzaddik, or mikol sheken reiyya shemes koil? What's the chiddush between tnuat tzaddik or reiyya shemes koil? Reiyya s-- Reiyya s-- Reiyya, idoch, idoch, idoch a tnuat tzaddik. What's the mikol? What's the two things? What's the mikol saying? Saying-

1:41:51 Speaker 8 Tnu-- Tnu means, uh, a movement.

1:41:54 Speaker 1 The motion of a tzaddik. A movement, idoch, or they, they see it.

1:41:58 Speaker 8 Okay.

1:41:59 Speaker 1 Maybe the Pshe is the chevre after him and came as bochurim. The Reiyya, but, uh, uh, tnuat of the Rebbe, even if they didn't see it. But a tnuat tzaddik, mikol sheken reiyya shemes koil, mikol sheken saw with his nechet to actually see it. But the kapaim, the Rebbe after kishme. So after the Rebbe ki, the sixth time without kemes, when, when I was in the Rebbe summer, I'm able to tap it, the Rebbe down at the tom after circus of the rebbetzin. This was much closer, able to see it more. Rebbe gave, like, a little look, like a goodbye to the tzitzits. A second, a split moment. The chavivus, it's a small tnuat. Moshe, the chavivus, the Rebbe, all the tzitzits, and now he has to do-- uh, let the tzitzits go. So a small, a short moment is made like to see it. Pshe the chavivus of a mitzvah. Anyway.

1:42:58 Speaker 8 Yeah. Okay. So, uh-

1:43:02 Speaker 1 And, um, speaking of Tofshimin Tes, I tell you one interesting nekuda that traps on a lot of nekudas is spoke before. That metzedek of chassidus, the Rebbe is not just a nice genius that says chassidus. The Rebbe lives chassidus, and it turns oof. And they say, "Try." The Rebbe gives us the ability to, to, to pick us up, to have a-- to live with the Emes. Say, the basic Indian, say in the first Indian, few days after this event, after, uh, after I told you before the sukkah, in the sukkah day-

1:43:33 Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah.

1:43:33 Speaker 1 For the guest of the Hochim, was Leis of Chassidut Tofshimin Tes. In Leis of Chassidut Tofshimin Tes, he went to Aluche because Matisyahu's nefesh to meet the Rebbe, part of the Rebbe's tobengan. So he tried not to be a smart boy, so wherever they send you, you went.

1:43:48 Speaker 8 You went.

1:43:48 Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Rebbe said so, yeah. 'Cause you-

1:43:50 Speaker 8 Talya told me-

1:43:51 Speaker 1 That's it.

1:43:51 Speaker 8 Talya told me once that when I, I didn't wanna be a smart, but I was also not a stupid boy. I didn't go, "No, Mashiah." Um

1:43:59 Speaker 1 So anyways, I went to shul, Rebbe in Bobok, but on the way back, we used to run back like a Meshugane. Pshe, running is why? Because every five minutes, it's such a... Leis of Chassidut was one of the most gishmekef tobangans. Never the gishmekef tobangans. Every five minutes made it different. So he used to run like a Meshugane. Anyway, I came to some sanity. I came, Baruch Hashem, fair, early. And then the Rebbe said, said to sing all the nigunim of the Rabbeim. It was exceptional thing, never happened before or after. To sing Leis of Chassidut, the nigunim of all the Rabbeim. And after me, middle of one of the nigunim, Rebbe Elazar, Rebbe Shlich, Torasha, was then a bocher. He was then a bocher. I think, "Maybe you sing, Yoman?" No, Mama, no, Nishka. Uh, no, Mama, not you, when I got married. I mean, when, when Shlich is Torasha, Tofshimin, we went to the Opot. Kitza. But I kapaim, um, Tofshimin Tes, Leis of Chassidut Tofshimin Tes, he came back from Taluche after me. So he comes into some sanity, freak me, "No, what's tsuch? Like, what's happening?" So I told him that the Rebbe sang to sing all the nigunim of the Rabbeim. What does he say? Says, "Oh, sit of Zion Lebedek. Something is gonna happen." It's, uh, it's not, it's not Eze. But at the end of all the nigunim, there's the nine nigunim of the Rabbeim, right? You kalken, it comes out nine nigunim. And when Moshiach would come,

1:45:26 Speaker 1 it would be the Shira Assiris. The tenth. The Rebbe was, uh, like, uvgelegt, like very happy, if you could say. Like, very uvgelegt, like it was Simcha dekemort. The Rebbe was yelling. After the nine nigunim, the Rebbe said like this, "We veis nish ginoy voseh zein the Shira Assiris." We don't know exactly what's gonna be the tenth Shira of Mo- of Moshiach. "Abba nazikah nazach," one thing for sure, "Adon teichen," what's gonna be all the idea behind it, what's gonna be the idea of the Shira Assiris, the Rebbe started to sing. Um, "Nyet, nyet, nyet kavo, kavo." Basically, Eynen mevadi. And, and me and the Rebbe stood up, and the Rebbe was dancing. Nyet, nyet, nyet kavo. So remember, Pshe says, the Rebbe says, "What is Moshiach all about? What is Chassidus all about?" As Eynen mevadi, that's the nekuda of everything. It's not just that, uh, um, Moshiach is gonna come apest, he's gonna come, Mishiman Heches, he's gonna do superficial things. The nekuda of Moshiach is to make out of your own neshamah, your own connection to the Hamishom. That's the, the, the, the gist of it is net nyet, nyet kavo. The Aliyyah Shamayim that happened a few days before, the Rebbe Shochtdim . It's all based on the same nekuda. Pshe Yid, Rebbe having a Shabi, find the Hamishom of the world, and we have to just live with the Emes.

1:46:49 Speaker 8 Okay. Medek. Yeshakech, Rabbi Man, for this, uh, tale.

1:46:55 Speaker 1 Yeah. Simple.

1:46:56 Speaker 8 Okay. And, uh-

1:46:58 Speaker 1 Fine.

1:46:58 Speaker 8 Hatlach and Hashpah, uh-

1:47:00 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:47:01 Speaker 8 On the Bachrim, and, uh, through this, it's beyond Bachrim. So, uh, Bachrim-

1:47:05 Speaker 1 Amen. Yeah. Amen. Bezach sh-- Bezach sh-

1:47:08 Speaker 8 Okay. Zeig it, Yeshakech.

1:47:09 Speaker 1 Okay. Zeig it. It's good.