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א גרוס פון 770 · פרק 656 · 2026-06-28 · 3:42

0655 - R' Yoel Kahn 05 - The Rebbe Made Reference that He was the Chozer 02

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Rabbi Leibel Schapiro shares his memories from the Rebbe, 770, anecdotes and Chassidim

תמלול אוטומטי מהשמע, ותרגום מכונה לעברית. קישורים לחב"דפדיה נוספו אוטומטית.

00:01 הפעם השנייה ששמעתי מהרב יואל כהן - פעם נוספת, הוא לא אמר לי שזו הפעם השנייה, אבל זו פעם נוספת שבה הרבי עשה משהו, אמר משהו שמכיר בכך או נותן לו קרדיט על היותו ה"חוזר". הוא סיפר לי את הסיפור המפורסם, כשמישהו שבא מאוסטרליה התארח אצל הרב יואל כשזה היה חג השבועות, והרב יואל הבין שזה היה שבת ערב שבועות, שלמעשה לפי שיטת הרבי בקביעת התאריך, אותו יום הוא שבועות, ושהרבי קרא לו להיכנס. אני לא אחזור על כל הסיפור - כולם מכירים את הסיפור, אבל יש חלק אחד שלא כולם מכירים. ואמרתי את זה פעם אחת - פעם ישבתי בהתוועדות והרב יואל היה שם, ורציתי לספר את זה כי הוא סיפר לי את זה, אבל הוא בשום אופן לא רצה שאספר את זה. אבל עכשיו אני יכול לומר את זה בפומבי. אולי כבר אמרתי את זה בפומבי קודם, אני לא זוכר.

00:01 The second time that I heard from Rabbi El, another time, he didn't tell me that's the second time, but it's another time that the Rebbe did some, said something that acknowledges or gives him the credit for being the chezer. He told me that's been the gay, the famous story when this person who came from Australia stayed by Rabbi El when it was Shavuot and Rabbi El figured out that it was Shabbos Erev Shavuot that really according to the Rebbe's shita in Kava Tairich, that day is Shavuot, that the Rebbe called him in. I'm not hazering the whole story. Everyone knows the story, but there's one part which not everybody knows. And I said it once, but once I was sitting by a fabregen and Rabbi El was there and I wanted to tell it over because he told it to me and he, Bishum Efen didn't want me to say it. But now I could say it in public. Maybe I said it in public before. I don't remember. That Bashasi went into the Rebbe then when the Rebbe called him in and they was talking about this hymn by Shavuot being a day before everybody, which was Chesed. Rabbi El testified he asked the Rebbe whether he has to say or he should not say Zman Matan Torah Seinu because the Alter Rebbe Shulchan Aruch writes that if those years when they were Mekadesh Al Pi Ariah, if Shavuot came out on Chesed, they would not say Zman Matan Torah Seinu because Matan Torah

01:15 שהוא נכנס לרבי כשהרבי קרא לו, והם דיברו על העניין הזה - שבועות שחל יום לפני כולם, שהיה [חסד?]. הרב יואל העיד ששאל את הרבי האם עליו לומר או שלא לומר "זמן מתן תורתנו", כי אדמו"ר הזקן בשולחן ערוך כותב שבשנים שבהן היו מקדשים על פי ראייה, אם שבועות חל ביום [חסד?], לא היו אומרים "זמן מתן תורתנו", כי מתן תורה היה

01:15 was Vov Sim. So the Rebbe, he asked the Rebbe about this person in a case like this, does he have to say it? And the Rebbe did not answer. So he asked again, basically pressuring the Rebbe. And I think a third time and the Rebbe still didn't answer. He asked a third time and then the Rebbe answered him. And the Rebbe said yes. I mean, no, that he did answer him that he said no, that he should not say it. Rabbi El said it bothered him the whole time that it seems like he pressured the Rebbe. The Rebbe really didn't want to answer. So it's like a chutzpah, pushing the Rebbe to the wall, so to speak. The Rebbe should have to answer. He didn't want to answer. Don't leave it alone. But then he felt himself that maybe he was right by doing it. Because after all, he says he writes the sichas and he chazes the sichas and he gives it over. So since he gives over the Rebbe's Torah, it could be Negail Lapel that when the sicha will be written, he'll have to know the halacha and he'll have to know maybe. So he was matzik himself. He justified himself for doing it. But he wasn't sure. That's how he felt. A while later, when there was a fabregen, I think it was a Yutvat fabregen, next Yutvat. I don't know exactly. Between the sichas, he was just, something came to his mind. This singing came to his mind. Doesn't even

02:22 בו' סיון. אז הוא שאל את הרבי לגבי המקרה הזה - האם הוא צריך לומר את זה? והרבי לא ענה. אז הוא שאל שוב, בעצם הפעיל לחץ על הרבי. ונדמה לי שגם בפעם שלישית הרבי עדיין לא ענה. הוא שאל בפעם השלישית, ואז הרבי ענה לו. והרבי אמר - כלומר, הוא כן ענה לו שאמר לא, שלא צריך לומר את זה.

02:22 know why. It just, the thought that he reminded himself that he was standing in the Rebbe's room and he asked the Rebbe and the Rebbe didn't answer. He pressured. So he was starting to think to himself, was it right or wrong? And then he said, maybe it was okay because after all, I do write the Rebbe's Torah and I give it out. So maybe it was right. As he's thinking that way, someone gives him a clap and says, the Rebbe's calling you. So he jumped up and he comes up to the Rebbe, goes up to the bimah to the Rebbe. And the Rebbe gives him l'chaim. And the Rebbe says to him in Yiddish, It's a loshon in Rashi on B'negei Eliezer, the Eved Avram, that he was based on the word damesek, Rashi Teves. Means he draws and gives to drink of the Torah of his Rebbe. That Eliezer used to spread the Torah of Avram Avinu. So the Rebbe read his machshava. He was shasmaisa thinking, is it right of me or not? Maybe because I'm spreading the Rebbe's Torah, I have a right to, had a right to do it. And the Rebbe read his machshava. He called him up and he said, as if saying yes. And the loshon he used to him, After all, you are the one that draws and gives people to drink the Torah of your Rebbe. And b'meile he had a right to do that. And that was an answer in his machshava. But the Rebbe

03:38 הרב יואל אמר שזה הטריד אותו כל הזמן, כי נראה שהוא לחץ על הרבי. הרבי באמת לא רצה לענות. אז זו מעין חוצפה - ללחוץ את הרבי אל הקיר, כביכול, שהרבי יצטרך לענות, כשהוא לא רצה לענות; לא להניח לזה. אבל אחר כך הוא הרגיש שאולי צדק בכך שעשה את זה. כי בסופו של דבר, הוא כותב את השיחות וחוזר עליהן ומוסר אותן. אז מכיוון שהוא מוסר את תורת הרבי, יכול להיות שאגב כך, כשהשיחה תיכתב, הוא יצטרך לדעת את ההלכה, אולי יצטרך לדעת. אז הוא הצדיק את עצמו. הוא הצדיק את עצמו על כך שעשה את זה. אבל הוא לא היה בטוח. כך הוא הרגיש.

03:38 did say something to the point that he was a chezer.