0061 - Tachnun by Mincha When Father is Present

00:01 Once, when Reb Leibel Vestritsky, olav hashalom, made a bris for one of his children, the bris was in the morning, but then later on by Mincha that the Rebbe davened at three fifteen, he was there by the Rebbe's minyan. When the Chazan finished Chazar Shashatz, the Rebbe saw Leibel Vestritsky standing there. He was standing, I remember where he was standing. He was standing right under the clock a little bit behind Rabbi Chadakov. And the Rebbe saw him there, so the Rebbe said, "What's the din? Do we say Tachnan when you have the Avi Aben here? Even though it's after the bris, but it's the day of the bris, do we say Tachnan or not?" And no one answered. Obviously, it seems that Reb Shmuel Evitan wasn't there because usually if he was there, he would be the Rov that would answer the Rebbe's questions. So the Rebbe was waiting. No one said anything. So the Rebbe looked around, and then the Rebbe saw on the table right behind where Reb Leibel Vestritsky was standing, which is the table by the wall between the shul and maskirus, where you have the two big doors. The Rebbe saw a volume of the Alter Rebbe's Shechinach laying there. So the Rebbe moved away from his place, walked over to the table, picked up that Shechinach. It was Cheilei Kallah Shechinach of the Alter Rebbe. The Rebbe picked it up, opened it up straight to the back. In the back of Shechinach, the Alter Rebbe's Shechinach, Cheilei Kallah, the

01:21 way it was always printed, you had a Hashlomah for Rav Nechemiah de Brovner, B'negei de Halachas of Hilch Tachnan, those Halachas which are not mentioned, the Alter Rebbe's Shechinach. So he has a Hashlomah. And there he actually talks about this shailah, whether by Mincha, after the bris, do you say Tachnan or not? It says if you're by the child, the same thing would be probably if the Baal Bris is there. The Rebbe looked at it for a few moments. He opened the Chatchilah straight to that part, looked at it for a few moments, closed it, and didn't say anything. And he waited, and no one said anything. Lepeili didn't say Tachnan, and the Minyan did not say Tachnan. Leibel Vestritsky told me the next day that he wrote into the Rebbe that from here we see that the Rebbe holds that in a case like this, he shouldn't say Tachnan by Mincha. That if the bris was the morning, but the Baal Bris is there by Mincha, he shouldn't say Tachnan by Mincha either. And he said the Rebbe answered him, and I don't remember the lotion, but the Rebbe answered him that it's not so, that you do say Tachnan by Mincha after the bris, even if the Baal Bris is there. The Rebbe did not say what is the din when the Gei de Baal Bris himself, the Avi Aben, that the Rebbe wasn't talking about. But when the Gei had the Minyan, the Rebbe said that he should say Tachnan.