Rosh Hashana & Yom Kippur by the Rebbe

00:01 Speaker 1 Speaking about the month of Tishrei, uh, I mean, there were many guests that came every year, and then you had the locals that were here that lived in Crown Heights. I can say probably from 12 Shin Lamed, this is 40 years ago, not that I'm so old, but I think from there already I recall recrelations f- recollections from different Tishreis that took place by the Rebbe, the things that stood out that were not happening every year. Some things happened in the one Tishrei and then the other years were different things. The Tisha B'Av was like a year for itself. It was, there were Hasidim that came to the Rebbe for Rosh Hashanah, there were Hasidim that came to the Rebbe for Yom Kippur, there were Hasidim that came for the Rebbe for Sukkos. Uh, country-wise, the way we classified it was Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur were Tzerol V'Yikacheva. Sukkos we had the French. They came Sukkos. This is the Yarkev. And Shmini Atzeresim Chas De'ah was basically the Canadians. I remember they shine a Rabbe in the morning, the buses came in from Canada. The Anash, whoever came for, uh, Shmini Atzeresim Chas De'ah, Anash, Bochurim. This is basically what, what, uh, B'neguer T're'guess. So bemeila, there was a big difference in the quantity of people by, uh, Kesher Bracha Rosh Hashanah to people by Kesher Bracha Simchas De'ah. Rosh Hashanah Kesher Bracha could have taken an hour, an hour and a half. Simchas De'ah took Kesher Bracha about three hours, three and a half

01:35 Speaker 1 hours. It's like the Rebbe could have gone in, uh, went into Farbrengen six o'clock in the evening, for example. He went back to his room about 5:00 in the morning because the Farbrengen Simchas De'ah was the biggest of the year, like Achan Shel Pesach, about six hours. On to them is three hours Kesher Bracha, and this is after two hours of dancing and sing- Simchas De'ah. And as we'll mention further, calendar setting like this year's calendar setting, um, Simchas De'ah Friday, we had four Farbrengens in two days. Four Farbrengens in two days, literally. Thursday night was the night, uh, Liel Simchas De'ah like this year. So before Akavos we had a Farbrengen, a warm-up for Akavos. It would start nine o'clock in the evening, would finish about 11:30, 12:00. 1:00 in the morning, the Rebbe would come in for Ha'ataream. This is the night of Simchas De'ah. Um, the next day, Friday, was the, uh, Friday end of the day was the end of the Yom Terus Simchas De'ah. So the Rebbe marked by Farbrengen. But you couldn't Farbrengen too long because it goes after Ishki, after Mekiddesh. It's called in Halacha, it's called Peris Mapel Mekadesh. Re- the Rebbe didn't approve of it. The Rebbe was never comfortable with that. And so bislach, the Rebbe discouraged it, and the Elam didn't do it. So bemeila, you couldn't keep-- you couldn't extend the Farbrengen too long because you have to bench. You can't just go on hours without eating. So therefore, this was i- in

03:03 Speaker 1 such a Kriyas and in general, Rosh Hashanah Farbrengens were always short. The shortest Farbrengen is the year, about an hour and a half. Then the next day is Shabbos, Breishis, Shabbos Mevorchim. It's Farbrengen 1:30. 1:30 to 4:00. People ran home to eat the Seudah. They came back for the Farbrengen 6:00 in the evening, which is the Ashlama for the Friday Farbrengen, a six-hour Farbrengen. So you had four Farbrengens in two days. This is for the people that participated. I can say from personal experience, to hazard the Farbrengens and to write them down was an additional experience. To know what went where. Sometimes there were loose words. We have no idea where's it coming from. Was it in the first Farbrengen? Was it in the second, the third? It was like we had to put together puzzle sometime. The first three Farbrengens were the most difficult one. The fourth one, which is a six-hour Farbrengen, was the easiest. Why? Because it was already after Shabbos. They're already able to write. It was like-

04:05 Speaker 2 Record.

04:06 Speaker 1 Metzoy Shabbos. They didn't record.

04:08 Speaker 2 They didn't record?

04:08 Speaker 1 No. The Rebbe was still Shabbos. But, but what they did was they, after Dezman, like forty minutes to Dezman, like the Farbrengen started Licht Benson, and the Nigun, or sometimes more than one Nigun, and then the Rebbe would speak. So for example, I would say towards the end of the first Sicha, or maybe the beginning of the second Sicha already, they managed, they already prepared the whole Yom Teruf, pen and a pad, a notepad, and they start to write. So as soon as we saw their writing, we stopped concentrating on details. So this is basically how Simchas De'ah looked in the Barry. So this year, in such a calendar setting, was the most po-- the, the, the fullest potential of, of, of Farbrengens, as many as there could be.

04:52 Speaker 2 The Rosh Hashanah Rebbe could write what? The challenge.

04:54 Speaker 1 The Rebbe, yeah. Okay. So Rosh Hashanah was also something new in the later years. Okay. So speaking B'neguer to the Yemei HaSlichos, starting from Yemei HaSlichos, although it's already history at this point, from this year at least. Um, Yemei HaSlichos B'chlal began Metzoy Shabbos. That's the first night Slichos. Uh, the Rebbe would go to veil at least once or twice Yemei HaSlichos. Gimel de Slichos every year. The third day of Slichos was Eis Rotz and he went every year. What it is, we don't know. After seven generations, we still don't know what this day is about. Don't know. It's a yem school. The older Rabbe would say, "A maimer for the mamalomogen." What it, what it was, nobody knows. The Rebbe spoke about it. The Rebbe told, said a word about it, uh, what, what it is. People are spectating it might be, uh, the Mezitcher Magazine, the letters, ich weiss nicht all kinds of things. I, uh, I don't know. We didn't hear it from the Rabbe. Then comes Erev Rosh Hashanah. Erev Rosh Hashanah, when the Rebbe became seventy years old, the Rebbe began making Farbrengens on every Erev Yom Teruf. Erev Yom Teruf, Erev Rosh Hashanah, the night before Erev Rosh Hashanah, the night before Erev Sukkos Like, uh, this year would be Tuesday night, uh, Erev Rosh Hashanah, Tuesday night, uh, uh, Sukkot. And, um, Yud Aleph Nissan was like the Erev Pesach farbrengen, and Erev Shavuot, the night of Erev Shavuot. So that's, that's something that went on for 16

06:26 Speaker 1 years. The Rebbe began in 1972, 5732, shnas ha-shivim, shivim shanah. The Rebbe started to farbrengen mamash steadily on every Erev Yom Tov for 16 years straight till Chof Beis Shevat, and then the Rebbe stopped all weekday farbrengens. After the passing of the Rebbetzin, all the weekday farbrengens fell out of the calendar. The Rebbe just continued every Shabbos.

06:54 Speaker 2 What about his sichas?

06:56 Speaker 1 There were sichas. There were sichas nach anant. Every second night, the alarm rang. There was-- The Rebbe was speaking, especially up to the days, the closer it got to, to the end of the Chaf Zayin Adar. Okay, then we go-

07:07 Speaker 2 What's the difference then that it wasn't planned?

07:11 Speaker 1 It wasn't. The sichas were just spontaneous. They were not-- It wasn't like the Rebbe notified before. Once the Rebbe notified, I think once in all the years. In general, the sichas were part of farbrengens. They were part of the, they were, they were instead of the farbrengens. Yud Tes Kislev, we had a fab- we had a Yud Tes Kislev, a sicha before Yud Tes Kislev and the night after. This is instead of the big Yud Tes Kislev farbrengen. Youchatz. It's amazing, all these days that the Rebbe would farbreng for hours, it stopped. Everything stopped after, after Chof Beis Shevat.

07:45 Speaker 2 Yom DePagrar.

07:47 Speaker 1 What?

07:48 Speaker 2 Yom DePagrar.

07:49 Speaker 1 Yom DePagrar, Yom Tovim continued. Not Chassidishe Yom Tovim, regular Yom Tov. All the shuls of Golden, the Rebbe continued. The Rosh Hashanah, the Rebbe continued. And that was it. Besides Shabba- Shabbos farbrengens. He never had any, uh, Yud Tes Kislev farbrengen. Let's not forget that actually it stopped, it slowed down way before because the Rebbe stopped saying Ma'amarim with a nigun. The former Ma'amarim that the Rebbe would have to sing a nigun after the court case took- began, the Rebbe stopped saying regular Ma'amarim. He started saying Ma'amarim in the format of a Ma'amarim King Sicha, in the format of a Sicha. So that was also lost. Rosh Hashanah, Yuchatz, with his eyes open, mamash like in the format of a Sicha. Getting go- going on to Erev Rosh Hashanah in the morning. Erev Rosh Hashanah in the morning, the Rebbe began taking Kaddish, accepting Kaddish. Erev Rosh Hashanah in the morning was one of three days in the year before Manches, before Chof Beis Shevat, that the Rebbe davened with the minyan together on the weekdays. In generally, in the weekdays, the Rebbe never davened with the elok besides these three days and three Yahrtzeits. In other words, a Moloch Yahrtzeit. When you saw a picture from the Rebbe in tallit and tefillin before Chof Beis Shevat, you knew that it must be one of these six days, either Erev Rosh Hashanah or Erev Yom Kippur or Purim, or the three Yahrtzeits, which are Yuchatz, the 25th of Adar for his father and the 30th

09:25 Speaker 1 for his mother. So these were basically the six days a year that when you saw the Rebbe in tallit and tefillin. And I didn't mention also Mincha Tisha B'Av. Tisha B'Av Mincha, the Rebbe would come in with tallit and tefillin. Although the Rebbe davened in the morning privately, but he would put on-

09:42 Speaker 2 In the morning?

09:43 Speaker 1 Yeah. The Rabbeim, the Rabbeim would Tisha B'Av, uh, daven privately with tefillin. The Rebbe Rashab would- There is actually stating, uh, but it says also, it's interesting because there's a whole discussion about it in this other poskim, Sefardim others that they have a ps-- that yesh makim ba'alacha for that. To, to put up. We don't. Chassidim don't, but the Rabbeim, the Rabbeim did privately. It was a known fact, which this could be the reason why the Rebbe did not daven for Yom Tov, Tov Shin Manches, Tisha B'Av.

10:16 Speaker 2 Shacharit.

10:17 Speaker 1 We're aware of it? What Shacharit? All the three tefillahs.

10:20 Speaker 2 Why?

10:20 Speaker 1 He skipped his three tefillahs, not davening for a Yom Tov in the year after the Rebbetzin.

10:24 Speaker 2 People were making

10:25 Speaker 1 Because I, I think it's a pashtas because he's putting on tefillin in the morning by Shacharit. He's just-

10:30 Speaker 2 Why not other? Because it's a mitzvah

10:34 Speaker 1 He's putting on, they say, put on Rabbi, the tallit and tefillin by Mincha.

10:37 Speaker 2 What's the third, what's the third, uh,

10:40 Speaker 1 What, Maariv?

10:41 Speaker 2 Why not Maariv?

10:42 Speaker 1 What, Maariv? If he wants, just took the day off. It shouldn't be a ps-- into him or yeah, him or niche. He told, he told someone that he's not gonna. He told the maskil, "Say, when you recline, it was Yahrtzeit that day, that he is not davening for the Yom Tov."

10:56 Speaker 2 But could Shacharit be one because actually Shacharit is not tonight?

11:00 Speaker 1 Shacharit is a little, it would be a little complicated, I mean, technically speaking, because the Rebbe davened with tallit and tefillin.

11:06 Speaker 2 I understand Shacharit, Mincha, but why Maariv?

11:08 Speaker 1 Yechidim that the Rebbe took out the whole day for whatever reason. It was by the Rebbe, uh, uh, in Yesh Shulam that he took out the day, you know. How about that tefillah yedidah, tefillah niche, then it would be more a shaila. Azay, you have to go around saying, "Oh, it's Rabbu mit Mashiah, and maybe there's no aveilus." That's, uh, that's another, that's a, that I heard an explanation. It's a pashtit. It's a, uh, ein from mashpiyim in yeshiva in all the cities. That pashtit is, uh, it's like Tzachak, it's Rabbu mit geulah. You know, there's no leaning on aveilus then.

11:37 Speaker 2 The Rebbe. So Maariv is before-

11:40 Speaker 1 Yeah.

11:40 Speaker 2 Or Shacharit is Maariv?

11:41 Speaker 1 No, this is the Maariv before.

11:43 Speaker 2 Maariv before Shacharit.

11:44 Speaker 1 Maariv, the Rebbe, like, took out the three, the, the pashtit skipped that day, which is, uh, very interesting.

11:50 Speaker 2 And the Rebbe came out of here for, for Ichud?

11:52 Speaker 1 Yeah. Uh, he came in in the morning, he came to Ichud.

11:54 Speaker 2 So why that?

11:59 Speaker 1 I think, you know, it's a good question because the shaila is what about the Kaddish and everything? The Kaddish of the shaila, if the Rebbe said the Kaddish, and that's not good in the Yeman what took place because the El Chayei there, he said Kaddish, or he didn't say Kaddish the three there, the three tefillahs It doesn't make sense. That was not a question for God. Next one was a mitzvah also that year was from Shabbos into Tisha B'Av. Okay, guest came, uh, so, uh, getting to Erev Rosh Hashanah. Erev Rosh Hashanah BeChal, the Rebbe would take the pidyonos after he davened with the Elul. He said, "Atah Haratzan Dorim." You have pictures of the Rebbe standing for a group of Rabbonim sitting on the Rebbe's bimah. And, uh, you know, Rabbonim guests from, from other place, from here. And, uh, the Rebbe said, "Atah Haratzan Dorim" for them. The Rebbe would thank them, give a wish them, "Besivas Hanefesh." Then the Rebbe would return to his room and then-

12:51 Speaker 3 What happened to the Rebbe's chulish when the Rebbe was gone? You think he can be coming a day or they used to be all have a lunch?

12:55 Speaker 1 No, it was only for the Rebbe. They started it for 10 people in the Atah Haratzan Dorim.

12:59 Speaker 3 Okay.

12:59 Speaker 1 Uh, nobody followed the chulish for them to give them.

13:01 Speaker 3 Last year, it was 20 people.

13:03 Speaker 1 Yeah, it was the Rabbonim from every year, like Rabbonim, uh, from Orchim that came. It was Rabbi Treadnik, Rabbi, uh, Rabbi Hanzin. Yeah. The Chossid Rabbonim, they came from, from different places, and they were-- they were already from year to year. First time, they're probably chosen. Yeah, there's pictures of those. They're sitting, uh, very uncomfortable. The Rebbe standing and they're sitting. But basically, this is, uh, the seder is the Chabad Rabbonim got to sit as a guest. In general, after, after, um, Atah Haratzan Dorim, the Rebbe would be-- would went back to his room, returned to his room, accepted the pidyonos, and then continued with the Seder HaYom. But noon days, the Rebbe spoke a sicha, which is very unusual. He spoke a sicha after Atah Haratzan Dorim. So he asked if it's, if it's all too great, and I think it was a table, the stand there, the micro. And the Rebbe start to speak a sicha. It was mamash, a long sicha, the fierach, after Atah Haratzan Dorim. Then the Rebbe returned-

14:07 Speaker 3 In Atah Haratzan Dorim.

14:07 Speaker 1 Yeah. In, uh, by the, by the shiva, the Rebbe sat the whole time in Atah Haratzan. After Shacharis, the-- all the Menachem went through. So everybody went through. The ones that will be Menachem Abba, the Rebbe sat in Atah Haratzan Tehillim, and then the Rebbe took it off after the Elul left.

14:24 Speaker 3 How, how long did it take?

14:26 Speaker 1 Mm, I said, "You can't sign." You had delegations from Rebbes, uh, Rabbonim, Rosh Yeshivas. Could have taken at least an hour or two, at least. Usually, it was worked out with appointments of things like, you know, people were told when to come. I'm like, "Is that some Atah Haratzan Tehillim a day after a day?"

14:43 Speaker 3 The regular, anybody can come in and announce, "Am I going now?"

14:47 Speaker 1 Yeah. The women wouldn't. When they get an ash, it was, uh, I think, you know, the acius, a gate over acius, what day, who comes. But when they get Rabbonim, delegations, I, I have a sheichas. My schwer dad was by the Skover Rebbe, and he was by the Rebbe in Tosh Minhalach, 1981. Got from Rebbe, he asked the Rebbe three questions in Tanya, and the Rebbe answered, "Got spa tzeile kerubi." He's a neidem of Rabbi Ginsburg from Haguda Sarabbon. So he came to be Menachem Abba. So he asked me, he said, "The Ramaz come to Lubavitch. I should tell them when and where, v'chulu, v'chulu." So I was told, uh, Rabbi Volkan, he brought him. He's, he's a very, uh, Yiddish man, Reisha Kol. So he brought him, and he called me, and he told me, uh, you know, it's like not from Shinko cell phones. He called me up, he told me, "We're here, and you tell us when we can come in." Spoke to Mosquitoes. He was garbed, and, um, he went in with his, uh, chavraya, you know, with his group. Sat there for a while, and then they went further. The next group came in. It was like they were sitting in the cars, the, the Zunne for Sevdiala, Chassid Rebbe. It was packed. President Street never saw such traffic in all the years. Cars on my sister's, a car. There's police barricades, man. It's a piton. So the pe'al, what happened was that the Rebbe went back to his room,

16:08 Speaker 1 accepted the rest of the pidyonos, and then came the pidyon klali. What's his pidyonos? Till 1977, the Rebbe accepted all the pidyonos on Erev Rosh Hashanah. When it came 1978, which was after the heart attack, there began a new seder by the Rebbe, that he began accepting pidyonos a few days earlier, Yom HaAslichas. The Rebbe mamish himself chose the day, announced it by chavrenga, "This is the day when it starts Kabbalas HaPidyonos." And which I think it was Yom HaAslichas then. And everything, everything the Rebbe was working through everything. They announced then people should not come to Tkhiyas, because usually a lot of shtieblach, what they do is they go to come to-- they have up Tkhiyas HaTeida, the Rebbe then. They come to the Rebbe's Tkhiyas, then they go back to the Musaf of the shul. I wasn't aware of it till then. Although Kaponim, uh, Malmukdam some seventy. But, uh, this was the seder. So they announced they're asking the Elul not to come to Tkhiyas. The Rebbe found out about it. So the Rebbe says everybody should come. Norvadon, they have to be machazek shuls in the shchuna, so they should work it out to be machazek the shul in the sh-sh-shul in the shchuna. Although it'll be ein bim tzuufim u'mishtacha bim rivacha. It's just, although they'll be standing all together, but there'll be enough place for everybody. And Tkhiyas that year was mamash anchova. It was mamash lemayla mata. I remember it was, like, comfortable. It was, um, uh, Tkhiyas,

17:44 Speaker 1 it should be comfortable in any posture. It's like the shtupinish, everything is, is... Then comes-- So bemeil hazes, so Lamed Heh, the Rebbe asked that the ones that, uh, didn't hand in, the, the ones that are not local, they should hand in on Erev Rosh Hashanah. Otherwise, everybody should hand it in before. The Rebbe posture asked to take off from the pressure. So there wasn't such a big line besides the guests that came that night. After that- A group of older Hasidim went over to the Rebbe to give him the Pidyon Choli. Pidyon Choli is sort of a petition that is signed by hundreds of Hasidim. Each one, a A Young light of Kanat Bachir. Each one has gave a dollar, signed his name and mother's name, and this was s- a signature after the whole Nusach of Brochas for the Rebbe, for the Rebbetzin, for Klal Yisroel, for Hasidim, uh, for Eretz Yisroel, young Klal. They were handed to the Rebbe, a group of old Hasidim, by the door, by the Rebbe's, uh, uh, room, the entrance to the room, and they would... And the l- most of the time, the later years, the Rebbe took a bunch of papers. The Rebbe said, "Ein azman gron," that there's no time to review everything in detail, and the Rebbe would begin responding with a Bracha. The Habersher should fulfill the requests of everybody in the, in, uh, mentioned here, all the Brochas, and the Rebbe would continue with Brochas. Later, they would edit, the Rebbe

19:20 Speaker 1 would edit it to read some of the Kotizichas. The Bracha for the Pidyon Choli, they're all printed in Kotizichas Chumash Dvarim, in the Isophus. In Taf Shin Lamed Ches, it's Mirapel and nobody realized it, uh, but it's something which it's very obvious. Taf Shin Lamed Ches, the Rebbe added... Huh?

19:40 Speaker 4 In retrospect.

19:41 Speaker 1 In retrospect to what?

19:42 Speaker 4 In retrospect, it's obvious.

19:44 Speaker 1 Okay, in retrospect, it's obvious, but it's, uh, in Mirapel and Achmein, all the years that people shouldn't research it, Mirapel Dikazach. In Taf Shin Lamed Ches, the Rebbe added a few lines in the Pidyon. Either he wrote it, okay, there, there's a tape mistamal so we can hear it, or the Choli, if it's in there. The Rebbe, the, it sounds like this. The Habersher should fulfill the, um, request of everybody that's, uh, that's, that's mentioned, the request of everybody that signed, including requests that should have been mentioned but are not mentioned, but the Habersher knows about them, so they should also be included. This is three weeks before the heartache. Lamas Peladic. This was Lamed Ches. It's printed in the Kotizichas. Our component, so this is where the Rebbe included things which he had in mind, but the people didn't chapsekh, what does he mean? I feel like wh- I feel that when he said that, people also didn't chapsekh. It didn't dawn on anybody that Ashmini Achsar is Lamed Ches will take place. Nobody believed it. As far as people, Hasidim said then, "For the Rebbe's health, we don't have to be concerned. We don't have to daye for his health. He's, he's, uh, you know, he, he, he's strong and the, the key has blig vul," says Anotava Sered. But that's when we started to realize that we have to take in consideration the Rebbe's gezunt. The Rebbe then went to the eil. The Rebbe came back from the eil, as we know,

21:19 Speaker 1 but generally late, right before Yom Kippur.

21:22 Speaker 4 Right. Th- th- this thing that's going around for like 20 years today, given here saying the famous brother, and a lot of people use it to their own advantage, or people knock it to their own advantage, their own problems. The Rebbe one time said that he had a shofar, he was picked by the elokim Hashem. What's the real story?

21:36 Speaker 1 The Rebbe said it.

21:37 Speaker 4 What, what, what was it? It was a joke or was it-

21:39 Speaker 1 No, it was once a maise with the fence. I think it was the fence, it was locked. The Rebbe says, "Well, got a shofar." One time the Rebbe said, "Chaver." But we would have a shofar, but he can't approve them. Yeah.

21:50 Speaker 4 Yeah.

21:50 Speaker 1 The, the Rebbe did say it once.

21:51 Speaker 4 I, I think it was just, it, it, it-

21:53 Speaker 1 It may, I don't know what way the Rebbe said it. I mean, the Rebbe didn't make any latzonus.

21:57 Speaker 4 Right.

21:57 Speaker 1 It's a vort. It's, it's a vort that held, that held, that held ramashas.

22:01 Speaker 4 If, if, if, if you, if you, if you say, "Oh, the shofar in the car," I think it would have shut the motor and then said, "Okay, now." I don't know if that makes sense.

22:07 Speaker 1 I mean, uh, literally this is what the Rebbe said. The Rebbe said, "Mas feld, a shofar, okay." And we're talking in a time that you had nothing.

22:16 Speaker 4 You had nothing. Yes.

22:16 Speaker 1 You had no one to talk to, because even the guys, the management, were not so co- op- op- cooperative. They closed the gate at 5:00 is 5:00, and there were times the Rebbe was locked in. They had a work push to undo it, and they had to get a key from someone outside. So it's like a town. It wasn't m- it was more than once that they had. So you were dealing every time. They had no connection with them. And there was no tent. There was nothing. Today, people are asking questions, Parsha Keva that are born later years. "Where did the Rebbe wash his hands? Which sink did he use?" Which sink?

22:46 Speaker 4 Which sink?

22:48 Speaker 1 Which sink, which house, which tent?

22:49 Speaker 4 Which sink did the Rebbe use?

22:50 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Which sink?

22:52 Speaker 4 Um, uh, thank you for bringing that up. He said, us, the British human said that in the storage. He said he ended up topping off the hinges. He tried pushing the gate then.

23:04 Speaker 1 Right.

23:04 Speaker 4 It was too heavy to move.

23:05 Speaker 1 Right.

23:05 Speaker 4 So the Rebbe came and pushed together.

23:08 Speaker 1 Right. Yeah, it was then the Rebbe together with him. It was, it was a Friday, I think, they're pushing to get out.

23:13 Speaker 4 The, the, the, you sort of see Yodel on the fence and called a couple times.

23:15 Speaker 1 See, remember maises. There was once a fire. The heater once got on fire.

23:19 Speaker 4 What happened?

23:19 Speaker 1 It hit his face.

23:20 Speaker 4 What happened?

23:21 Speaker 1 The heater. The heater got on fire, and it hit Yodel's face.

23:25 Speaker 4 Yeah.

23:25 Speaker 1 The Rebbe put his hand on his face. It was, uh, it was mames, uh, it's like a valid place. I mean, the things where the Rebbe, you know, what the Rebbe did, he did-

23:32 Speaker 4 In the eil.

23:33 Speaker 1 In the eil. I think it was outside the eil.

23:34 Speaker 4 In the car.

23:35 Speaker 1 In the car?

23:35 Speaker 4 Or did, did I think-

23:36 Speaker 1 No, I think this was already in the eil.

23:38 Speaker 4 In the eil.

23:39 Speaker 1 In the he- heater in the eil, yeah. That's it.

23:40 Speaker 4 Yodel would come with the Rebbe to the eil? No.

23:42 Speaker 1 Yodel would come with the Rebbe to the eil. As soon as the Rebbe settled, he took the pack and he gave it to the Rebbe, and he sat in the car, and he had his work, newspapers, other things. The Rebbe wanted it. He needed to update the Rebbe. He would update the Rebbe every time whenever there's something about Lubavitch or the Rebbe's interest. The Rebbe told him what he's interested in.

23:59 Speaker 4 Interesting.

23:59 Speaker 1 So he would cut, uh, the newspapers and make him clips, prepare it. He would ha- he would be in touch with the mosquitoes.

24:05 Speaker 4 Yeah, of course.

24:05 Speaker 1 You had a chosun. Right. You had a chosun in the middle of the Rebbe's by the eil, all of a sudden there's a chosun kala. Came chosun kala. When? How? The Rebbe's by the eil. There were answers coming from the eil. You, the, he went into the Rebbe. The Rebbe, after the Rebbe finished minor lesson, when the Rebbe would stand and write answers. I had a few answers I got from the eil. At Parsha, the Rebbe would stand and write for hours. The Rebbe, but the Rebbe was working there till the shkia. So you run tunkel, the Rebbe knew the end of the day.

24:33 Speaker 4 Did the Rebbe seem to go, go to, uh, scientific, uh, Rebbe was with him, no? And she would cut out the scores.

24:41 Speaker 1 That's a bezunger. But the maise with the tops and tails is not her.

24:45 Speaker 4 The Rebbe never went to the Hillel Bank.

24:47 Speaker 1 Dr. Mendel once said, he said, "My Rebetzin," or "The Rebetzin." He meant his wife. Mendel's wife. It were not maise, it's the Rebbe's wife. That's how things happen.

24:59 Speaker 4 It was a lot.

25:01 Speaker 1 That was mesuch, what I say, since, uh, not in a daven, emunum.

25:05 Speaker 4 Without anything, the Rebbe, the Rebbe-

25:08 Speaker 1 Um, the Rebbe went before Shacharis. It seems like that was the only time. And when you look in the Reshimas, it's interesting that the Rabbeim went before Shacharis maybe one more time. It was like it, uh, not mamash the three times. I've seen the Rishonim, the Rebbe, and this, this is what, you know, coincides by the Rebbe. There was Ma'ariv before Shacharis. Kaparos was the Moshel, uh, seven in the morning. Yeah, Erev in Kippur.

25:33 Speaker 5 So simply, could you give us something about that in Shas, say, very well.

25:36 Speaker 1 Three times. But in the Rishonim, the Rebbe writes, it's a Masham Epessas Nitaze.

25:41 Speaker 5 Could be it was one year, I don't know.

25:42 Speaker 1 Maybe one year, but Sabgezunt, I don't know why. But by the Rebbe, the obvious what we saw was that because Lekach went to Mincha, and then the Rebbe star went to Mincha. We didn't see the Rebbe should leave. Unless, unless it gives given the Zakmos Mireisanish.

25:57 Speaker 5 A lot of you, seven o'clock Kaparos is not practical.

26:00 Speaker 1 The what?

26:01 Speaker 5 Seven, seven o'clock Kaparos.

26:03 Speaker 1 Instead of?

26:05 Speaker 5 Instead of one o'clock in the morning.

26:06 Speaker 1 It's Talmud because it just doesn't work out. It's not, uh-

26:09 Speaker 5 No one can make it.

26:11 Speaker 1 No, it's, it's not working out like it used to. All Chevre used to go to the poultries, to the different places, uh, plants, Pacific Street. So they used to have there. They used to go there in the middle of the night.

26:21 Speaker 5 Doesn't contact all the parts in the apartment.

26:22 Speaker 1 What?

26:22 Speaker 5 Doesn't contact all the parts in the apartment.

26:26 Speaker 1 No, Menachaporia, because the Sabazang, seven in the morning. Um, okay, going on now to Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah, the Rebbe came in to Rosh Hashanah with a, with a, with a, a Tehillim, with a Machzor, the first night Rosh Hashanah. A Tehillim and a Machzor, and as soon as the Rebbe walked in, the Rebbe would, uh, would start saying Tehillim. He opened up the-- he pulled out the shelf from the Shacharit, from the Stender, and he sat down and said Tehillim. How much did he say? The he said about twenty-nine, thirty kapitelach, like the Yom Rishon of Tehillim, as it's in the week, uh, divided by the week. Seven days are in the week, week. Uh, he did not say it b'rabbi, privately, quietly for himself. After that, the Rebbe would get up, motion with his hand, Avinu Malkeinu before Ma'ariv. They would sing Avinu Malkeinu. If Rosh Hashanah falls off, fell out Shabbos, the Rebbe did not motion with the hand. And, uh, this went on for certain tefillahs. Sometimes before Shacharis, I can't say every time. I don't remember before Shacharis if the Rebbe should ask to sing Avinu Malkeinu. Before Ma'ariv, it was more often. Mincha, also not so often, as far as I remember. But I remember one thing. That the second night, if Rosh Hashanah was Shabbos, and the second night the Rebbe came in and was all singing Avinu Malkeinu, the Rebbe was mariach in it. It seemed like he was making up for Shabbos also. The was like

27:59 Speaker 1 being mashlam. So that was the, the Seder. Okay. The next morning, the Rebbe came in with full hands. In his hands, the Rebbe held a white cloth that wrapped two, three shofars. One was the Rebbe Maharash, one was the Tzemach Tzedek. Um, that, uh, and what shofars that the Rebbe first used? One was black, one was yellowish.

28:26 Speaker 5 The white one.

28:26 Speaker 1 They asked them, yeah. There was one shofar that I remember many years, a little black shofar that the Rebbe used. It was from the Rebbe Maharash, I think. And it became-- it was cracking, constantly cracking, so they had a zeh get famished to cut more and more. Eventually, they couldn't use it. It was already less than a shir. It wasn't like a tefillah, so they, they, well, they put it away. But, uh, there is a bigger shofar for a black one for the Rebbe Maharash. There's a yellow one. Actually, this Rosh Hashanah, I heard from Meshe Klein, who was the baal tekiah in the Rebbe's room, that the Rebbe had a Tzemach Tzedek shofar, the Rebbe Maharash shofar. I think he had a shofar from his father also. And there was a shofar that the Rebbetsin asked in Lamid Ches, they should buy the Rebbe, uh, a lighter shofar. He shouldn't have to exert himself so much. So they brought a shofar from Echid Sarol, a very light shofar. Three years, the Rebbe used it, then he went back to the old shofars. After Lam-- after three years, the Rebbe cut out everything, any roshe, any impression of Lamid Ches. He didn't wanna mention. He didn't want it mentioned. He didn't want it brought up, nothing. He's very upset when there were still invitations from Sabgezunt after Lamid Che-- after three years.

29:44 Speaker 5 The shofar they use instead of taking them out, the shofars-

29:46 Speaker 1 It must be one of the, uh, shofars that the Rebbe used. I think they exchanged, like, the first day, the second day. Epess gedicht now.

29:53 Speaker 5 So the one he used now is the

29:55 Speaker 1 Uh, in the room, we had that. It could be that downstairs they exchanged, you know, for one day, a second day. I'm not sure. I think Levy Tereman probably would know more because he's more, he's a baal tekiah. And then comes-- Okay, so the Rebbe came with the shofars. In his arm, the Rebbe had a whole bunch of sefarim. He had a Machzor, he had a Tehillim, he had a siddur of the Arizal, Rab Shabsir Ashkever's siddur, which the Rabbeim held by tkias.

30:28 Speaker 5 Why would they hold by tkias?

30:30 Speaker 1 Huh?

30:30 Speaker 5 Why would they hold by tkias?

30:32 Speaker 1 By tkias and by hagoda. the Rabbeim siddur Arizal. Siddur Arizal, Rab Shabsir Ashkever. So the Rebbe mentions that by hagoda they are written by tkias, so the Rebbe had a-

30:41 Speaker 5 So they were the kavanas of Arizal.

30:43 Speaker 1 Yeah.

30:44 Speaker 5 Not the-

30:44 Speaker 1 But siddur, no. That's Tehillim M'kol Hashanah. That in addition, the Rebbe had that siddur also.

30:47 Speaker 5 No, but I'm saying, not the siddur that the Arizal actually had or used.

30:51 Speaker 1 No, no. But it's a Kabbalah siddur. But also the siddur Tehillim M'kol Hashanah.

30:57 Speaker 5 The Alter Rebbe.

30:58 Speaker 1 The Alter Rebbe siddur, or the Mitre Rebbe siddur, Rebbe called it. Also because the kavanas of tkias. The Rebbe wanted that the baal tekiah should know the maamer, "L'havan, ninan tkias sheifra api kavanas habashantif." As the Rebbe told Rabbi, uh, Mendel Tenenbaum who blew shofar, the Shemoneh Esreh shofar, uh, uh, tkiyas, he should blow in the ‹foreign language›. Now it's Kabbalah, but Rebbe wants us to learn. I think it says in Menagim also that the ‹foreign language› should learn it. Okay. So the Rebbe, behind the Rebbe walked in the maskirim. Each one of the maskirim was carrying pekhalach from pidyonos, wrapped in brown paper, stringed. It was only the pidyonos, not the money. The Rebbe asked the money should be separated. In later years, the Rebbe asked that the people that are handling the pidyon should s- handle the m- money separate because instead of needing to separate it before Yom Tov. The pidyonos were handed in, were, were, uh, uh, were carried by the maskiros following the Rebbe. When the Rebbe got to his place, the sefarim the Rebbe put into his drawer. The pidyonos were placed on a little, on a table that was right near the Rebbe's shtender. That's where they were kept till after Krias Hatorah. After Krias Hatorah, when the Rebbe went up to get the Aliyah, the Maftir, the Krias Hatorah, uh, after Maftir, the maskirim came up with the, with the pidyonos. That's-

32:21 Speaker 5 When the Rebbe went up to the very front to start with them?

32:23 Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't think all the sefarim. I'm not sure if, I think it's the Machzor and the Siddur Ari Zal. I'm not sure if it was all the sefarim, but I don't remember the Rebbe carrying so many sefarim to the Aliyah. And, um, after Maftir, the Rebbe turned around to the maskirim. They brought up, they, they handed all the pidyonos, and the Rebbe started to make a seder with the pidyonos. It was a very unusual scene. The Rebbe start to move around the pidyonos from one place to another. This here, this there. It's like, uh, uh, it's even on a ‹foreign language›. It was like straightening out everything, smoothing out everything. The pidyonos were all over the bimah, over the whole bimah. And the Rebbe's pulling-

33:07 Speaker 5 In the bag or-

33:08 Speaker 1 What?

33:08 Speaker 5 In, in the bag, or-

33:08 Speaker 1 In, no, in the bag. And these were the ones he went to his own pidyonos. It was all tied.

33:12 Speaker 5 After Maftir?

33:13 Speaker 1 Yeah, uh, after Maftir. 'Cause Maftir, he still had the Siddur or the Machzor on the table. After that, it was empty, so the Rebbe left his Siddur on the side, pidyonos, and the Rebbe put his Siddur almost on the edge of the-

33:25 Speaker 5 During Maftir, the pidyonos were not on the table.

33:27 Speaker 1 No, they were not on the table yet. They were by the maskirim. I don't know if the maskirim, I think the maskirim might have been standing with them, or they were waiting till after. But I remember the Rebbe turned around, and we took it back to the pidyonos. The Rebbe start to make a seder. I remember on the, uh, pashut, I mean, it's, it's, uh, pashut see it in front of my eyes. Rebbe's pulling this one and that one. ‹foreign language›. Then the Rebbe take, took the tallis, threw it over the whole bimah. The Rebbe didn't have much pashut covered with the bimah. The Rebbe started ‹foreign language›. Pashut standing there. Sometimes you saw the Rebbe move back and forth. Sometimes they saw, they saw the Rebbe just standing. There were times that there were priyas. This is what I mentioned earlier, that there were certain years that were different. Like 40 years ago, 41 years ago, the Rebbe was crying bitterly under the, under the tallis.

34:17 Speaker 5 Pashut.

34:18 Speaker 1 Lamit. Later comes the ‹foreign language› that year. I mean, there were tzaros. The Rebbe saw the year, uh, on the, uh, at Kriyas. Then it wasn't so long acharonas, but because the shul bechalal, air conditioner wasn't valid. And the elom, and the shul wasn't so big, and everybody's focusing on one place. Woman of Nishki guest. Chevre would pass out. You have sometimes chevre pashut chalash. You have to open door. There's not solitude. My father was the doctor. Called pashut. My father had to be moved from one place to another, carried all, you know. Chevre were falling like flies, pashut. And as you know, as they feel, it's, I'm not megazam, or but, uh, I'm not trying to be megazam. I'm just saying it's the chevre. The chevre was standing in their places by 8:30 in the morning. They're already standing catching a place.

35:10 Speaker 5 I know.

35:10 Speaker 1 Then you had the people that chazaka. But you had people pashut you had, you had, uh, people 8:30 in the morning standing catching a place. And then after was the pushing. And then after happens to be somebody standing behind the Rebbe. ‹Foreign language› He could have blocked 150 people from that angle. We have to try and Arab tallis Baruch, you know, it's gonna be standing where they're standing in front. Usually, before Krias Hatorah, there was a gabbai, a man named Pinchas Kretz. He would announce, "We shall listen ‹foreign language›." Where you're standing, who you're standing for. And as soon as he went down, everybody went up the top. I've get on science, and I'm get on serious. The Rebbe was very earnest. And when it came to ‹foreign language›, the Rebbe with his tallis, opening up his tallis over his face, but still we couldn't see mamash the Rebbe's face, just partially. And the Rebbe holding his tallis like over his face and forth, the Rebbe would start Lam Natzayach, and again cover his tallis and say the seven times Lam Natzayach under the tallis. After that, the Rebbe would begin pr- preparing for Tkiyas Shafer. The Rabbeim bechalal Al Pi Kabbalah, there was a white handkerchief, there was a red handkerchief, and it was a whole thing Al Pi Kabbalah, one over the other. ‹Foreign language› there was a whole thing. Rav Vivki Rebbe-

36:38 Speaker 5 Was the-

36:39 Speaker 1 Rav Vivki Rebbe mentions it in Hasicha. Rebbe Rashab did it.

36:42 Speaker 5 Was that Rashab's white handkerchief then with the Rebbe?

36:45 Speaker 1 I don't know. The handkerchiefs, I don't know where, where they came from. Although in the past is the Rebbe bechalal used in Yomim from the Rabbeim. They say even a yarmulke the Rebbe would wear from the Rabbeim. Sometimes a tallis, a carpel. From the first of Yom, they say the Rebbe had a bag with him by the Tefillin Yom Nerim. They were chafetzim, they were bdgodim from the Rabbeim. There's a thing also in the world, by the Chasidishe world, that they wear bdgodim from previous Rabbeim as a zechus of it. Then now come to the broches. Then the Rebbe, Rebbe took the shepherd, pulled the towels over the face, pulled the towels, put- pulled the towels behind his right ear, and began with the Brocha. The Brocha was a very special with our geschmack. Like you hear today, the, the "..", the, the, the, the, the, the, the are saying the Brochas, special The Rebbe would start blowing, and generally it went smoothly. There was one time, it's a famous story that took place in it was right before the Yom Kippur, and the Rebbe possibly got stuck over there on The Rebbe tried one shepherd, a second shepherd, and it was one time such a mess. I don't remember in time, but some people say it was about twenty-five minutes. That's a lot. Wow. Struggling. Yeah, but now in middle, in middle, I don't know if it was. It was already went through our stick weg, but where it is with his heart. I

38:16 Speaker 1 heard that from all the patients in the hospital. Huh? I heard that it was only that year there was a lot of patients pushing back with Rebbe. There was a lot of- People were calling. Yeah. Because it's, it's known the story. Lately, it was possibly publicized more of a deal. Amongst the crowd, that that young man did not have children until then. He made a that in middle of everything, that if he's gonna be blessed with a child, he's from Israel, I think he was, he will bring the child next year to the Rebbe. Okay. The key has continued. On, uh, that's it. That's it. And then came He went over to the Rebbe. He didn't tell anything to the Rebbe. The Rebbe told him, "Don't forget the you made." Wow. The next year, he had a child. He brought the child to Kesher Brocha. I'm not sure if he told the Rebbe or, or, or, uh, or the Rebbe alone. He told the Rebbe that this is the child from last year. So the Rebbe said, "Those are Eyna from the Tkiyas Kinder." It's also the Muhammad that year. That was also about, uh, Akopanim. Okay. That day, uh, the first day, Rosh Hashanah, if it's not Shabbos, is Tashlich. The Rebbe went to Tashlich. I remember when the Rebbe walked to Botanical Gardens. Botanical Gardens until Chaviv Chavzayim sixty-six, sixty-seven, the Rebbe walked to Botanical Gardens briskly, very briskly. It was a double file line, a two-file line. The Rebbe would walk with

40:04 Speaker 1 Rabbi Chadikoff on this, on the sidewalk, seven seventy and all that side. And Hasidim followed with gezunde nigunim. And then we came to Washington Avenue. I remember Washington Avenue, the Rebbe walked on the street. It's very malchusdik. And you're not talking here about only Lubavitch Hasidim there. You had Bobover Rebbe here. The Bobover Rebbe was on Park Place in Brooklyn Avenue. You had thousands of people living in Crown Heights and around Crown Heights, from here to Atlantic Avenue, from Rochester to Washington, and it was all Yidden. All Yidden. It was possibly all Yidden, uh, to the mid-sixties, the early sixties. And, and, uh, the male, they were Yidden. Everybody was traditional to walk to Botanical Gardens for, for, uh, Tashlich. It was like an outing. They didn't get kumen, the Rebbe, and it was a park. It was, it was very, uh, nigunim. The Rebbe, when the Rebbe walked in, I remember they didn't let everybody in. They walked in, the Rebbe and a small group. And when the Rebbe was gone on the other end, they opened up the, the, the So they didn't wanna open up everybody should come the same time. As soon as the Rebbe went with his group, they locked. We were stayed outside, waited. The other side, when the Rebbe was out on the other side, then they let everybody in. The Rebbe would take... I wasn't aware of the Kishas Maise. The Rebbe would have a little booklet, a Tashlich booklet. That's where the Rebbe said Tashlich from,

41:33 Speaker 1 not the Seder. Who starts the Seder? Tashlich booklet. In his pocket. You know. Marcus once published it, a little Tishrei booklet. So there was one, I think, a yellow one with Tashlich. The Rebbe would walk, the Rebbe would walk with Chadikoff? I don't know. I don't know his talk, but he would stop, he would stop bachurim, kids on the way. He would ask them, "Where's the tzitzit?" He would ask, but it was mamish. He'd stop kids on the way. On the way back, the Rebbe went through Union or President, and he'd go back to seven seventy. Very fast. You couldn't keep up. Possibly. Chevre were like, uh, uh, even the Chevre some weekend Yarden was in the pocket inside. It was like just- But what would the Rebbe do by stoplights? By what? Saying, "Did he see that, that... Did he have to stoplight, the Rebbe would stop or do- He didn't, he didn't really fulfill. He didn't really, he wasn't really religious in, in, uh, in, uh, observing all the things. The Rebbe was walking against lights. I'm not talking about there. I can tell you on President Street in, in Brooklyn. After Shabbos Fabringen, we would walk home. We would walk. It was a, it's a tradition. Bachurim would walk the Rebbe, Does the Rebbe ask for it? No. That was if the Rebbe's walking alone. Oh. But hundred mentions will not gain. That's what he gave me that. So this was mamish that, that, uh, bachur, it was like a traditional thing.

42:53 Speaker 1 After milche, I don't know. So some men in Chevre some gain. I remember eve- although we lived, uh, we lived in as Connectory in Eastern Park, we walked the Rebbe to the The Rebbe, it was a tziter to look how the Rebbe was crossing against traffic, against Sigven Magil. Possibly, Sigven Sakonis, the fascism. There was one time that the Rebbe had a hop over. There was a car under the fist. It was, it was a tziter to look. I mean, the Rebbe was going against the light And, but there was cars still, and the Rebbe once give a jump to the, to the sidewalk. This is, uh, another person the Rebbe told him not to jaywalk. He told-- The Rebbe told once Rabbi, uh, Berel Junik, of Basolin, not to, to do jaywalk. But the Rebbe ain't that's a brocha, halachuki. It's a pasut there. The Rebbe would walk there, the chagar, and this is something that I have to make a point because I, I, I saw it, and it's not like today. Melamdim, others wanna teach different. The Rebbe walked on the side where they have the, the Union and Brooklyn, in the Union there. Rabbi Chadikoff did not walk on that side, but the Rebbe did walk on that side, with the exception that if there was a wedding or something else taking place there on that, uh, shuz meis, the Rebbe would cross the street before he got there because the Rebbe didn't wanna disturb him. He was in the middle

44:11 Speaker 1 there. If we're standing out in the resin, the Rebbe crossed over on Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn, walked on the second side of Brooklyn. But otherwise, the Rebbe always walked on that side. With the law, like the ones that are telling people, the Rebbe, Rebbe walked on that side. So nishtain yen, nisht, nisht gesteigen, nisht geflagen. We saw it. Everybody that was there from then remembers it clearly. The Rebbe was not macher on that.

44:33 Speaker 5 Who the hell now?

44:34 Speaker 1 But the Rebbe was macher on one thing. There were once some galait were standing and having a conversation down the grass. The Rebbe called over one person. I think it was Hasid with another person, and the Rebbe told him that he's nisht kedai to stand and, uh, you know, to stand on this, uh, to have conversation right there. Okay, after Tashlich-

44:56 Speaker 5 Why did, why did the Rebbe stop going to Botanical?

44:59 Speaker 1 Okay, why the Rebbe stopped going to Botanical is what we heard then, and then later years, we heard a different reason. We heard then that it was hard for the Rebbe to walk. See, with the foot, it was hard for the Rebbe to walk, so therefore the Rebbe stopped going, and he started to look for a closer place. Later years we heard, this mamish I heard a few years ago, that the reason was pashut is because the police, many police were Yidden, and the Rebbe was uncomfortable that they're doing melacha with him on Yom Tov.

45:27 Speaker 5 I heard that there was a one year that the Rebbe came, there was a gold photographer taking pictures of the Rebbe that came, and it would last eight months.

45:36 Speaker 1 There was a, there was another... Okay, first, the Rebbe does mention in a year that the Rebbe Rashab, they once came, wanted to make a picture of him by Tashlich. That's why he stopped, uh, going. Although by the Rebbe, I, I didn't hear it. It's ken sein. Actually, there is a picture from the Rebbe by Tashlich.

45:52 Speaker 5 Probably.

45:53 Speaker 1 Published in Ichech Abud three years ago. It's a picture from Tuv Sim Utes, 1958. You don't see much. You don't see the water. You don't, you don't see the Rebbe with a tree behind and maybe Rabbi Chadikoff, mamish, uh, a part of the picture like. It's not like a whole background. Although, this was in Utes. A couple of him, then that-- So this was it. Now, the second night Rosh Hashanah, the Rebbe would say Kaddish.

46:19 Speaker 5 When did he start doing Tashlich? That was on end of the spring, right?

46:22 Speaker 1 Oh, so then they started to look for springs. They didn't find right away. First, they found behind the library, mamish. So it was there. Later, they found on the driveway. Then they started to pull, uh, so they, they readjusted it, the location. And the location was basically around. They made a fence around.

46:42 Speaker 5 It goes down to the common spring.

46:44 Speaker 1 They dug. And that's where they take Mayim Chalon. So they took, you know, the, the well where they take Mayim Chalon, the driveway right in front of the Rebbe's library. That's where they take Mayim Chalon. So they extended from there to the Tashlich. So this was basically, uh... And then already, so ma-mah, so that's when the Rebbe started to use the Tashlich all the years.

47:08 Speaker 5 So the Tashlich the way it is from the beginning of the office?

47:11 Speaker 1 The end of Chof. Because that's when the Rebbe started to, to use it in the backyard. But chatzil it was behind the library, and then they moved it over. I think because they had to extend. They had to extend the Rebbe's, the room behind the library. So they, therefore, they, they moved the Tashlich, uh, to where it's now.

47:34 Speaker 5 The Rebbetsin to be able to be there?

47:37 Speaker 1 What?

47:37 Speaker 5 The Rebbetsin to be able to be there?

47:37 Speaker 1 The Rebbetsin, it could be also. I mean, definitely it was at the house of the Rebbetsin also that she was able to, to see it at least from the library. 'Cause they stayed in the back room, the Rebbe and the Rebbetsin. This was when it get to Rosh Hashanah. The second night Rosh Hashanah, the Rebbe said Kaddish for his sister-in-law, the Rebbetsin Shayna. And the second day Rosh Hashanah, before shkia, the Rebbe would wash for a fabrengen- For the Rosh Hashanah fabrengen. Huh? No, all, the whole, uh, he would start then. He said the whole day. There's a big yartzeit licht on the shtender. The Rebbe would say Kaddish, and even by Krias HaTorah where the pechiach goes right over, the Rebbe would walk over to the bimah without, before the aliyah, before they called him up to say the Kaddish. And while the Rebbe's by the bimah, they, they, they gave him the aliyah. Tzum un peys. It wasn't on first Rosh Hashanah. The Rebbe was about to kepp. The Rebbe got macher.

48:31 Speaker 5 The Kaddish, Kaddish.

48:32 Speaker 1 Yeah. For his, for, for the Rebbetsin Shayna, all the years. All the years, it was very religiously kept. Huh?

48:39 Speaker 5 Did she pass away in Holocaust?

48:40 Speaker 1 Yeah. She passed away in the Shoah and, uh, and then the Holocaust. So me'lekh, the Rebbe kept up the yartzeit. I think the Rashag also said Kaddish. This is what was kept up for the Rebbetsin. For her husband is later, chof chei Ches. It's a different date.

48:56 Speaker 5 And the Rebbe said that also?

48:58 Speaker 1 No. The Rebbe must, it must have been that the Rebbe paid for it. The Rebbe organized it. I'm sure the Rebbe organized it, but for the schweger me, he himself said Kaddish.

49:08 Speaker 5 How did they know the dates that they-

49:11 Speaker 1 He got the yudis. The Rebbe writes in a Pesach Dvar that the yudis came in, and they never told the Friediker Rebbe. So the year later, the Rebbe writes about it. There's a kadosh for, uh, for them. A minor was printed in, uh-

49:23 Speaker 5 Do you think the Rebbe knew that Shayna passed along?

49:25 Speaker 1 Officially, the Friediker was never notified. And, uh, the Rebbe said that he didn't wanna tell the bnei mishpacha. But the first Shabbos Shuva, right after Rosh Hashanah minor, after Tuv Sim Yud, Tuv Sim Yud Aleph, the Rebbe writes a whole Pesach Dvar, dedicated the story that there were Eidis there with Reb Linka. The Rebbe writes all the facts. It's very interesting to note, the Rebbetsin Shayna's yom halades is chof alef Teves. When you look in the Aliyem, you see a very interesting point the Rebbe's making. That the Friediker Rebbe once greeted a water carrier. And the Friediker Rebbe said, "Amidbar gegen wasser, solle sorgen, made bashem tzusagen. Amidbar gegen wasser, debashem, made sasim in broche." That's a siman broche. And when you think about it, it's a pele de-kezach. What? That's about the Chitas, dollar, dollar, Mayan, that you would have a Parsa Shmais. But when you think about it, it's like telling the Friediker Rebbe her fate as "...", a Siman Brocha. From that day, Chof Atik, which is here in the letters. Leider was in 1943 or late '42, and that's when Parsa, uh, they, they found out later.

50:41 Speaker 6 I don't understand. How, how could it be-- how could people think that Frieda didn't know? Why, why would you think a rebbe doesn't know his own daughter? What is there to know?

50:50 Speaker 1 First of all, "...". We talk about Ruach Hakedush, not for argument's sake, but I'll tell you a sikha that the rebbe once spoke. What does it mean, Ruach Hakedush by rebbe? The rebbe said that a Hasid was once asked if his rebbe is Ruach Hakedush. So the rebbe said that the Hasid answered that if he needs Ruach Hakedush, he has it. If he doesn't need it, so he doesn't know about it. So in other words, if lemumaila, they want him to know about it, they give him, they give him the ideas. If the Friediker Rebbe knew about it or not, I don't know. You c- you can ask logically. It's already, uh, six years after the war or five years after the war. How you talking the Friediker Rebbe doesn't know? But there were many people, lost relatives that were found later. There were meissis in Halacha. A person got married, and later his wife came. Or a wife, a lady got married and her husband become okay, surfaced. What should they do? It's a green ganz shailot now. With kids born, it's a chamesh ha'ish as ish. It's a lot of complicated, uh, shailas after the war. When you get to 9/11, so they read, right, we have poskim then that told the women or the husbands that, you know, that, uh, they're, they're considered, uh, not agunas, but they're considered, uh, almanas because there was no way that they could have escaped somewhere. But when we talk about mayim sheim leim sof, as

52:16 Speaker 1 you learn in the Smicha, when you get agunas, so you have sometimes a person could have escaped. You have a meissa about ten years ago. Interesting shaila. Somebody ran away to Canada. Le'chateinu galinu. And, um, ran away to Canada, and then one day he told his wife he's coming back. He's gonna swim through Niagara Falls, and he's gonna come back. He never made it back. She never heard of him, from him. So the question is, you know, what, what is she considered? What's, what's the, what's the status?

52:50 Speaker 6 He seriously said Niagara Falls?

52:52 Speaker 1 That's what he said. He's supposed to go through Niagara Falls. I mean, there were people a few years ago, there was a meissa, something that hurt mildly and made it through. I don't know how he managed. He went into something. I don't know what it was. "...". I don't have contemporary rabbonim dealing contemporary issues.

53:10 Speaker 6 And he showed up?

53:11 Speaker 1 I never heard the end of the story recently. I know he discussed it in Halacha with Chevre, you know, a issue that came up. I don't know. Okay. Gein weiter. Going on now to the, uh, next Inyan. The next Inyan is, uh, Tzom Gedalia. Tzom Gedalia was a Tanis from the four tine years that the rebbe would speak by the Tanis after Mincha. That all started in nineteen seventy-eight, Taf Shin Lamed Ches. Taf Shin Lamed Ches from 10 B'Tevet.

53:45 Speaker 6 Nineteen seventy-eight is a long time. Tzom Gedalia.

53:49 Speaker 1 No, not Tishrei, 10 B'Tevet.

53:51 Speaker 6 Oh, uh-

53:52 Speaker 1 It's very January. 10 B'Tevet, Ta'anit Esther, Shiva Asar B'Tammuz, and Tzom Gedalia. Four tine years, not Tisha B'av. The rebbe spoke a sikha next fourteen years without missing one. Every one of these four tine years for fourteen years, the rebbe spoke sikha.

54:10 Speaker 6 What was it for again?

54:12 Speaker 1 10 B'Tevet, Ta'anit Esther, Shiva Asar B'Tammuz, and Tzom Gedalia. The four, Arba Atzaymus. They have the Dalet Atzaymus of a separate category. They're more lenient than Tisha B'av and Yom Kippur. The rebbe spoke every one of them after Mincha. Today, you have today a, a treasure of sikhas from the rebbe on all the different tine years. The rebbe explained the, the, the, the, the lesson from the day. The rebbe explained the Chitas of that day, the Rambam of the day. It's a giton, it's a ‑‑ now dealt with the Yoreh. 10 B'Tevet, we cannot didn't have anything from the rebbe until that year. Today, you have the rebbe edited the sikhas in the, those years, some of the, the sikhas. Okay. Now we go on to Rav Tisha. Rav Tisha is by itself Inyan for itself. Rav Tisha was forty-six years ago. It was a day that I remember well. It was a day that my father was very involved since he served by the rebbe as a personal physician for forty years. And mainly, he was called in that morning, five o'clock in the morning. I remember it. It was raining. It was a mabel. It was dark, Shabbos Shuva morning. The rebbetzin's not feeling well, the rebbetzin Chana. Father had to run, took the bag. Woodside was connected in Eastern Parkway. He ran to President and Kingston. No car, no taxi, Shabbos morning, ergeloften, in the mabel, in the, in the chei, in, uh, in itnach, actually. The rebbetzin had a stroke. She

55:40 Speaker 1 fell out of the bed then, and the attendant immediately called my father. My father came. It started already to get better. She started to recover. It wasn't so serious, like paralyzed or Hashem shalom, anything. She was already, like, starting to feel better. She herself asked, like, what happened to her. She, she didn't have-- she, she didn't understand what was happening By nine o'clock, the Rebbe came to the house. The Rebbe would visit his mother Shabbos morning, and then the Rebbe would go to 770. So by the time the Rebbe came, she was already better, yeah, but the Rebbe saw something took place. So the Rebbe asked my father to keep an eye, to, to monitor, uh, and from time to time to report back what's happening. So he would go from President Kingston to 770 to report. The Rebbe was fabrengen that Shabbos, which is also an exceptional thing, Shabbos Shuvah those years the Rebbe didn't fabrengen. And, uh, my father came and asked, and gave over to the Rebbe, and then said l'chaim, and said l'chaim for Chana Bas. He asked the Ziknei HaChasidim, nobody knew the Rebbetzin's mother's name. So the Rebbe answered, "Chana bas Rochel." Uh, so they all said, "Amen, l'chaim," and, uh, the Rebbe continued to fabrengen. There were times the Rebbe broke down and cried. The chasidim had no idea what was going on over there. I mean, they saw already on the first shloma they knew something was happening. This 10 Tishrei had a background Rosh Hashanah yet.

57:14 Speaker 1 Rosh Hashanah, the Rebbetzin, the second day, did not feel well, and she didn't go to shul. In the weiber shul, from where today I think it's Rabbi Groner's office, that's the first section of the weiber shul those years, the Rebbetzin had a chair, a distinguished chair that was by the window to the men's shul, and she would be f-first and fore-foremo-forefront, uh, be able to listen, be able to be by fabrengen. There were times they say the Rebbe waited sometimes to begin the fabrengen till he saw his mother by the window.

57:48 Speaker 7 Which window is it? Downstairs where you see-

57:50 Speaker 1 It's downstairs, but it's the first section, mamash. The first section of the downstairs shul.

57:56 Speaker 7 Right above the other's place?

57:58 Speaker 1 Uh, a- across-

58:00 Speaker 7 Oh.

58:00 Speaker 1 Uh, acro-- No, the Rebbe's bimas probably moved up, it sits like, uh, centered.

58:04 Speaker 7 It's like centered.

58:04 Speaker 1 But it was like the place where... Yeah, it's like the entrance of shul. You're coming from mechitzah of the shul, so it's probably one of the first windows there. Shul was a small shul. It was a third of the shul. You know what? Let's do it this way. You know where the Lahak Seforim there is the, the library of the sichas from the Rebbe. The driveway, when you come in the driveway, right? When you come, when you come at your left, you see all the seforim, that was the mizrach of the whole shul. That was the mizrach till 1968.

58:36 Speaker 7 Okay.

58:38 Speaker 1 Baruch Hashem, there was no big ehlem there either. Proportionally. Okay, weiter. Gefahren chov. In middle of everything, there was a fire there, second day Rosh Hashanah. The Rebbetzin's chair burnt in that fire. By fabrengen, the Rebbe spoke that they should make fabrengens every day in Aseres Yemei Teshuva. Chasid make fabrengens every day. The Rebbe says, "What a chasidishe fabrengen can accomplish, malach maves cannot accomplish." It's very unusual to make a fabrengen in, uh, in Aseres Yemei Teshuva in those years. It's not, uh, not, not common. A kopanim going on to, uh... It appeared the Rebbetzin did not feel well. It got worse. The situation got worse, and there was a need to go to the hospital. So the Rebbe, after the fabrengen, the Rebbe was told that his mother wants to speak to him, and the Rebbe, directly after mincha, ru-rushed to the house, President Kingston, it's mamash running up Kingston. And my father and another few doctors said that there's a need to go to the hospital. So the Rebbe said, "Since three doctors say the hospital," the Rebbe said, "Give us a quarter hour." I give it. Took the Rebbe, the Rebbetzin to, then it was called Brooklyn Jewish Hospital.

1:00:04 Speaker 7 Where is it?

1:00:04 Speaker 1 What's up with it? On Park Place and Franklin.

1:00:07 Speaker 7 Oh.

1:00:08 Speaker 1 Franklin. Not Mark, uh, uh, it's called Interfaith Hospital.

1:00:13 Speaker 7 Where is it?

1:00:14 Speaker 1 Franklin and, uh, Marks Place. I don't wanna say the other word. The Rebbe would have

1:00:19 Speaker 7 Oh, it's Langdon and Parkway.

1:00:20 Speaker 1 Yes, Marks. Uh-huh.

1:00:22 Speaker 7 Today, on Langdon and Parkway, Interfaith Medical Center. So it's part of the company.

1:00:25 Speaker 1 But this is, this is pres-- Brooklyn Jewish was changed another name, Dos Vayses.

1:00:30 Speaker 7 Ah.

1:00:30 Speaker 1 They told me it was Interfaith. I think that-

1:00:32 Speaker 7 I was born in Interfaith.

1:00:33 Speaker 1 Ah, so this is the hospital where the Rebbetzin was, uh-

1:00:36 Speaker 7 Which floor?

1:00:36 Speaker 1 The sixth floor. The Rebbetzin, the Rebbe went to the hospital with the ambulance together with the Rebbetzin, with his mother.

1:00:43 Speaker 7 Rebbe was in the ambulance?

1:00:44 Speaker 1 Yeah. With my father, with Mrs. Kahn, Rabbi Yael Kahn's wife, all went together to the hospital. They offered the Rebbe to sit in the front, and the Rebbe said, no, he wants to sit with his mother. So he was constantly, chasidically glekt. He was, you know, uh, holding his mother's hand, chasid, to make her feel better.

1:01:02 Speaker 7 What was the medical condition like? Is she

1:01:04 Speaker 1 Medical condition is she, by that time, she did, at that point, she did not recognize people.

1:01:09 Speaker 7 Oh.

1:01:10 Speaker 1 She wasn't, she didn't recognize people. So at the end of the day, when it was getting worse. Usually, a stroke patient is under guard. In the meritt of it, Kozma, they were able to, to, to, to let her stay home, let her stay home. But once it came to that point, they saw it's getting worse. So that's when they took her to the hospital. So although it could have been later a heart attack, I mean, that was the impression, because the Rebbe said, after the stalth, the tira, they asked the Rebbe. No, af-after the Rebbetzin was stalth, they, they told the Rebbe that it's over. So the Rebbe asked, "Did they massage the heart? Did they do other things?" The Rebbe, like, asked different methods to check, and they said they did everything. And that's when the rochen came to, to, to the hospital, uh, tzitztuiton. The Rebbe said it's not a fabrengen year. It's, it's not 770. And the next day was the levaya. And the Rebbe said sheva three days till Erev Yom Kippur And then on Yom Kippur, the Rebbe got up, the Rebbe came late to shul, and, uh, this is the end of the day. And that was it. The- they started a year of davening for Yomim, 11 months. The Rebbe began then the Rasha Sichas, teaching the Rasha Sichas. This is what we got from that year for all the years.

1:02:23 Speaker 7 Where was that actually the week?

1:02:25 Speaker 1 In his mother's house.

1:02:26 Speaker 7 Up the old one?

1:02:28 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. He slept there, and the Rebbe said he doesn't need a shamer. There's a light there. So the Rebbe, of course, stayed in the house.

1:02:36 Speaker 7 The Rebbetsin did not.

1:02:37 Speaker 1 The Rebbetsin came briefly, but not that she stayed there.

1:02:41 Speaker 7 It was probably not Nechem or David, like, uh, like, uh-

1:02:45 Speaker 1 Not Lamchez, but there were, in those three days, uh-huh, the Satmar came, the Kleizenberger came, the Munkacs came, JB, uh, JB Soloveitchik came. So a lot of chevra pushed in those three days. Oh, yeah, they made a point of coming.

1:02:57 Speaker 7 But then a lot of chevra still wasn't crying.

1:02:58 Speaker 1 Uh, but not the Satmar Rebbe would cry. Kleizenberger either not.

1:03:02 Speaker 7 Right.

1:03:02 Speaker 1 But they were, but they pushed it those three days. It was full. We, as kids, we learned in, in Lubavitch Yeshiva, Betar Midim. All the classes went through. I remember the Rebbe sitting there with people around him, speaking with them, and we all went through a, a, a line that went through the Rebbe's house.

1:03:19 Speaker 7 And the Rebbe was talking, you came by-

1:03:21 Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. They pushed us in. We should go by, and the, and the Rebbe saw us, but the Rebbe was like, thought it was a minimal conversation. This was in Betar Midim. Betar Midim, I remember they brought us to Bimah Rachamavu. Yeah, everything in three days. The Rebbe was looking for a heter to go to the mikveh of Yom Kippur, because nobody had the, the bread kite to give till they found some Minchas Elazar, a teshuvah. Uh, you know, it's a heter for it. We lost after that the Simchas Beis HaShoeiva fabringen, that Rebbe would fabringen Chalumai Sukkos. Every year, the Rebbe would fabringen, even before he became Rebbe. And another thing that we lost was the new nigin. The Rebbe would teach a new nigin, Simchas Torah. After that, this also was lost. So these are two things that dropped out, and it seems like it was because of that Rebbe. And it's interesting because a year earlier, the Rebbe said, after the nigin Chavdalah, the Rebbe taught two nigunim. The Rebbe said, "M'veis doch nisht vos ken zayn neksnteh yor." And b'meila, it's m'ken echin grisimas, so the Rebbe taught two nigunim. Next year, there was nothing.

1:04:25 Speaker 7 Ken or not, the only thing?

1:04:26 Speaker 1 Yeah. So this was basically what it was, and the Rebbe stopped singing nigun. Although a few years later, it's very interesting, the Rebbe asked to sing Chavhei with Pishtamus, and the Rebbe asked to sing Netni Kavor. So the Rebbe says, "S'doch nisht Simchas Torah. Iksh vil ven Simchas Torah, v'ot odor gelernte a naye nigin." Simchas Torah, Rebbe taught a new nigin. Peyoh, the Rebbe never kept up that tradition. He discontinued it.

1:04:50 Speaker 7 The Rebbe, did the Rebbe compose any of them?

1:04:53 Speaker 1 No, these are all nigunim that the Rebbetsin, Chana, knew about these nigunim. She knew because she sang these nigunim with the Rebbe, pasht, as a child. They say the Rebbetsin taught him the nigunim. These are nigunim from Ukraine. Now, her brother was a big Menagem, Yarnovski, the Rebbe's uncle, the Rebbe's grandfather. They were pasht baalei nigina. Rabbi, Rabbi Srol Yarnovski. Rabbi Yeshe was the grandfather, but he had pasht, uh, they were pasht baalei, baalei, baalei nigina.

1:05:22 Speaker 7 Who was, who was the brother?

1:05:23 Speaker 1 Rabbi Srol. It was Rabbi Srol Yarnovski. They were different brothers, and they pasht new nigina. They had a hush nigina. So they, the peyoh, they, they, they, the Rebbe picked up. It's very interesting. A maise that happened 52 years ago. It's maise I heard from Nochem Kaplan. Nochem Kaplan was coming up Kingston Avenue, Simchas Torah. Rebbe's teaching the new nigin, 6:00 in the morning, 5:00 in the morning. And the Rebbetsin stops him. The Rebbetsin Chana, she would stand outside and greet people, and asks him, "Vas tut zichen 770?" "What's happening 770?" He told her that the Rebbe just taught a new nigin. So the Rebbetsin asked, "What nigin?" So he says, "Ich veis nisht. Ich veis ein zach, had Rebbe tzar geven." He said the Rebbe was crying very much by the Shamuel nigin. The Rebbe was, it was Shamuel's nigin. The Rebbe cried very much. It was hard even to chapt the nigin because the Rebbe was crying by the nigin. So the Rebbetsin asked, she wants to go to 770. It seems like she heard the Rebbe was crying and wanted to go to 770. He walked with her, and it was the shalash, the canvas. The shul wasn't a shul. For 10 years, there was no roof on the shul. Um, he walks in. Chassidim saw the Rebbetsin Chana. Immediately, they made way all the way to the Rebbe. The Rebbe saw... Huh?

1:06:50 Speaker 7 She went in as if the Rebbe-

1:06:51 Speaker 1 Standing by the entrance of the Menesher shul. If I'm free and coming around Simchas Torah in shul, I say, "I'm not the Rebbetsin's." Um, so-

1:07:01 Speaker 7 They have to come in or-

1:07:02 Speaker 1 How many times you have men or women that lack office, you have sometimes to take the mechitz off.

1:07:07 Speaker 7 So it was, it was in 770 then.

1:07:09 Speaker 1 So, so the, so the, I'm not saying it's a 770. I'm saying in other shtiebel, but I'm saying here-

1:07:14 Speaker 7 I, I remember in the other shul, they made a whole, someone made a whole problem. He said she closed the mechitzah.

1:07:18 Speaker 1 Right.

1:07:19 Speaker 7 Everyone else was like, "What are you talking about? They're always like that." They, they-

1:07:22 Speaker 1 It's like that, but akupanim, uh, zig burn as a, a seida by, by the-

1:07:27 Speaker 7 My mother said that, that she used to go when I was a little girl. Her mother used to bring her too.

1:07:32 Speaker 1 Yeah, they used to be in the back of the shul, I remember, in 770. So akupanim, when the Rebbe saw his mother, smiled to her, magid tomida han, tanzi atnua fan simcha, and that's it. And then she turned around, she left. Just wanted to see the Rebbe. The Rebbe would escort his mother every Yom Tov. The Rebbe would stand with his tallit after Shalit Sidra Golim davening by the porch, and after Musaf, and wait till his mother turned around Kingston Avenue, walking with the attendant. I remember it. Walking with the attendant and hundreds of people, I mean, the people, the Elul that was there would watch the kibud eyn that the Rebbe gave till he couldn't see already his mother on Kingston Avenue. Sometimes he still had the siddur in his hand. Sometimes the siddur was already put on the table in his room. He would meet his mother. She would, after davening, she would go up to the mechutanim, the Rebbe's mechutanim. And after that, she would come down and speak with the Rebbe. There was one time, it's a famous ma'ase with the shoes. There were shoes on the table. So one of the secretaries took it off. The Rebbe saw the shoes on the floor, the Rebbe put it back on the table. His mother put it on the table, it belongs on the table. There's another story that I heard benegeah the Rebetzin Chana. That, um, in the building where the Rebetzin lived, 1414 President- What was it about the shoes?

1:08:58 Speaker 1 The Rebetzin waizes put the shoes or slippers on the Rebbe's table. Wh-wh-which shoes? Which shoes? Ich weis nit, she brought slippers. Ich weis nit which shoes it was. So the secretary took it off. So the Rebbe put it back on. So that's not there, it sound like. Yeah. On the Rebbe's table, in the Rebbe's office? Yeah. The, um, the, it's, so the story was with the Rebetzin. The Rebetzin was very close with her neighbors. And not all the neighbors were mamish, you know, yeshiva in, uh, sending the kids to yeshiva, ratze v'tzach. What happened was, there was one kid that went to public school. They couldn't afford yeshiva. So they, um, the kid is coming home, and the Rebetzin is asking her, "What did you learn today?" She felt very embarrassed, and the Rebetzin picked up on it and said, "I didn't ask you where you're learning. I asked you what you're learning." This was the way the Rebetzin, a very aristocratic way. The Rebetzin was 说话 very poshet. The poshet is very aristocratic, together with that, very accessible. People felt very heimish speaking to the Rebetzin. It was, it was the two inyonim by the Rebetzin, the two extremes at the same time. Eima melech, mamish the mother of royalty, together with that, the poshetkeit, the nonchalance that the Rebetzin had with people. The Rebetzin, the Rebetzin once called to the house. I answered the phone. She asked me if I can take a message. I said, "Yeah." So I took the message

1:10:30 Speaker 1 that the Rebetzin called. It was like in a very-- which the same thing was by the Rebetzin Chaya Mushka. Same inion. On one hand, the godliness, the עמקות, the depth that there is, that there, by the Rebetzins. Together with that, the poshetkeit, the way they hosted people, the way they spoke with people. Everything was It was a carpet, right? There was a carpet, but there wasThe Rebbe would stand on a table. The Rebbe would get up on a table, close his eyes, give the berakhah and close his eyes, and The Rebbe would, would... In a few minutes, the berakhah was chamesh, only The Rebbe said a few minutes The Rebbe spoke, and then The Rebbe would go back to his room, and so people that waited for lekakh yet, they got afternoon and then The Rebbe went home. Later years, it developed into a sicha. That's the kind of . And then beis, a half, an hour sicha. Chamish, it finished about 10 after 4:00. You have tahiat hamet, and there was a whole, uh... This was a berakhah, birkhas, birkhas habotim, so this was the berakhah klalis for Klal Yisroel, the general berakhah. And then came before, uh, Kol Nidre, The Rebbe went in with the tallis and kittel to the bochurim upstairs in the zal, put the tallis over his face, covered his face with the tallis and said the nusach, Y'varakhkha HaShem, Yoir Yisro, the birkhas keranim together with the some Ashrim, and then The Rebbe gave a whole berakhah for

1:16:17 Speaker 1 the bochurim, the tmimim. But he, he At that time, we still had video tapes or audio, so b'meheilah everything was able to be recorded. After mem chet, the next year, there was a problem already 'cause The Rebbe bench licht. So the question was what to do. I think they asked The Rebbe. I don't remember exactly the ois here, but if there are tapes from some, it was possible that they asked The Rebbe to assure us if they can tape. While The Rebbe was speaking, there was already someone, a yungaman, Rav Hirsh on the Atik, who was well, very well known. Uh, he would be typing it while The Rebbe was speaking. So b'meheilah when The Rebbe finished, he typed out the last words. By the way, this is minutes before shkiah, so that he right away would paste it on the wall, and the chevra had the nusach. And after Yom Kippur, they would hand it in to The Rebbe. The Rebbe would be magiah the, the, the sicha. Would edit the sicha. The Rebbe would come in a minute or two after, after benching the bochurim. The Rebbe would go to his room, get his Sfarim, the machzor, the Tehillim acharon, come in to Kol Nidre. Okay. Now- The Rebbe would receive a called kibbud of the Sefer Torah by Kol Nidre. The Rebbe would hold one of the Sefer Torahs as part of the beis din, standing with the chazan and holding the Sefer Torah. Did he, he take out all the Sefer

1:17:34 Speaker 1 Torah, or- Three Sefer Torahs, I think it is. And three people, the chazan, The Rebbe, and the rosh hag. I think these are the three posheth kibbudim. The one that got this kibbudim paid a big hefty amount, thousands of dollars. A Yid that came from Eretz Yisroel every year, his name is Rav Shmerel Gurari. Rav Shmerel Gurari would walk over to The Rebbe every Shabbos Breishis when they announced selling the mitzvos and would ask a berakhah for the next year. In taf shin dalet mem, he asked The Rebbe a berakhah for next year, and The Rebbe waited. Didn't answer. For him, this meant he's not gonna make it to next year, and he was shaking already. And he's waiting, he's waiting, he's waiting. He's not giving the money. He's not promising anything to The Rebbe. The Rebbe nodded with the head, "Tzoizen." Next year, Erev Yom Kippur, taf shin mem hei, they're supposed to open the Kol, the Aron Kodesh. They're supposed to open the Kol Nidre. He walks over to the Aron Kodesh. Before he opens it, collapses, snifta right there in the... Right in front of The Rebbe, right in front of the whole eila. Shul beged pakt. What happened? Heart attack. Did your father do it- My father was not there Yom Kippur because, Rishon, he himself didn't feel well. Och, but they right away saw on the spot, they posheth, "Kal vayehi, he was snifta." I don't- They couldn't do anything. Hatzalah, they all did, but they wa- somebody, some wise

1:19:04 Speaker 1 guy walked over to The Rebbe and told The Rebbe, "It's vakh a ramayse." The Rebbe started to scream at him, "How could you talk like that? There's a shul full of keranim here. How could you give out that verdict? Everybody's gonna have to leave. The keranim have to leave." So they started to pump and work on him to make it look like he's still alive. And then they took him out to the kehillal, and that's where they kept him all Yom Kippur. He told the, the, the one, the doctor who said this, he said it's strange that he went over to The Rebbe and say, "He passed away." He said, "Ah." He said, "Ah, so he tells this family guy, like, oh, no, he's not." Mm-hmm. The Rebbe also answered that there's keranim. How could you talk like that? Oh, yeah, there we go. It was a, I remember he said it a couple times. The Rebbe said, "Ah." So he paid the money already, huh? Yeah, so who got it, the kid, uh, the son? I think the next- I think the next few years, the son got it, uh, Rav Shmerel Gurari. So he got the sicha. He went everywhere and- He didn't get the sicha. That's weird. Yeah. He would hand The Rebbe and the rosh hag his Sefer Torah. It's the biggest one of the biggest kibbudim. It's like- Who opened it? Who opened it then? I don't know. He opened it. Well, he opened it every year. It was delayed

1:20:16 Speaker 1 at least for a good 25 minutes. Who was the chazan then? Chazan was, if he was able to do it yet then, it was usually Rabbi Motel Telushensky, was the chazan for Kol Nidre and for Neilah. And- And Rabbi Weinberg was for Musaf. And for Shacharis, you had Rabbi Moshe Binyomin Kaplan. Shul Duchman davened? Shul Duchman davened Simchas Torah. I think it was on Simchas Torah. The reason why Davin today wasn't in, uh, from Empire, Davin, was his father involved? Zalmen? Zalmen Gold, Zalvie? No. Zalmen is in his own right, but he would daven Simchas Torah morning, Zol, uh, Zol Duchman. Maybe Davin, that until Shehecheyanu. Ah, Shehecheyanu. His father, his father, Rav Zalmen Duchman, davened for Shehecheyanu. But he's, he, he was, he's slow with sterne Simchas Toradom.

1:21:13 Speaker 8 You said he was in the town.

1:21:16 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:21:16 Speaker 8 You said he was in the town.

1:21:19 Speaker 1 Maybe he's gonna come up to live in town, you know. I don't remember that. Nothing, nothing the Rebbe sends in.

1:21:24 Speaker 8 He said that.

1:21:26 Speaker 1 Okay, I'll go upon him. End it with the minyan. So-

1:21:28 Speaker 8 He opened, he opened the Aron Kodesh.

1:21:30 Speaker 1 He didn't open it. He stood in front, and he didn't get a chance to open it. He just fell. The Rebbe promised him that, "Let me bring a yard." He obsiches on me right now, right there.

1:21:40 Speaker 8 Here?

1:21:42 Speaker 1 He came from Israel. So he's l- he's here. They buried him partially here on the Bais Hamikdash and take him to Israel. The Rebbe, upon the Rebbe's instructions, they're in the Bais Hamikdash. They mounted a-

1:21:55 Speaker 8 In the-

1:21:55 Speaker 1 The Chukas Chabad, a day after Yom Kippur.

1:21:58 Speaker 8 Is his brother a

1:21:59 Speaker 1 No, he's a br-brother of Shneur Zalman Garary, Zalman Garary. You ever heard of Zalman Garary?

1:22:04 Speaker 8 An old man. Oh, I don't, sorry.

1:22:07 Speaker 1 I had a memory of an old guy. I mean, he was a, an askan. He was his brother.

1:22:11 Speaker 8 Askan's brother.

1:22:13 Speaker 1 Rabbi Yechan Garary. You have Rabbi Yechan Garary in Israel. Uh, wrote there in wisdom.

1:22:18 Speaker 8 Hi.

1:22:19 Speaker 1 And, uh, asked-

1:22:20 Speaker 8 Ask Garary's his son.

1:22:21 Speaker 1 Yeah, ask, not Naska. He, yeah, Rabbi Ask Garary is his son, right.

1:22:26 Speaker 8 Yes, Halav.

1:22:26 Speaker 1 Halav. He is the grandson.

1:22:31 Speaker 8 Uh-huh. Not his son, he's not the grandson.

1:22:33 Speaker 1 Right. He's the grandson of Rav Shmerl Garary.

1:22:35 Speaker 8 Oh, okay.

1:22:36 Speaker 1 Shmerl Garary got to tell me the hard secret. He wasn't a giver.

1:22:41 Speaker 8 Zalman Garary is not my father. He's gonna be my daddy's husband. What the hell is that? That is totally Zalman. He appeared, and he just told me I was not done.

1:22:48 Speaker 1 Rabbi Shmerl Garary was a schwacher Yud. It was partially schwach, yes. He was nifted by 80 years old.

1:22:54 Speaker 8 His whole life was mine.

1:22:55 Speaker 1 But Zalman himself-

1:22:56 Speaker 8 Yeah. I mean, 40, he said he was dying of strokes and heart attacks, and 50, they said he's not gonna make it.

1:23:00 Speaker 1 He had a, he had a complicated, uh, health condition. Okay, going on to Yom Kippur.

1:23:06 Speaker 8 Remember when his hat called Midrash down? That was a-

1:23:09 Speaker 1 Yeah, the chazan. He stood on the side of the chazan. And then that's why it took time between that and M'shirah Males, because the Rebbe went back to his place. They gave back to sivita. They went back to his place, and that's when they were ready to begin. It was a besmedresh, so they're all standing together.

1:23:26 Speaker 8 Wait, so this was on the bimah or anywhere?

1:23:28 Speaker 1 By the chazan.

1:23:28 Speaker 8 Who took over for the-

1:23:30 Speaker 1 On the right side of the chazan. I don't know. Okay, let's get me wrong. Um, Yom Kippur night, the Rebbe would remain in shul for Tehillim, saying Tehillim. The Rebbe, it was a takanah the Rebbe instituted. There was one time that the chazan rushed off the Tehillim. The Rebbe was still in the middle. He went over to the omit. This was in the first, first years, and finished Tehillim, partially calling out every kapitel. Became the chazan. The, um, next morning was relatively quiet in '77. There was no pushing, not for davening, not for Maftir. The Rebbe did not get Maftir in the morning. Rabbi Chadikin got Maftir in the morning. The Rebbe got Maftir yom, Mincha. So there was no pushing for Mincha. You had ruach. Mincha, it's not behaving. Shtupin, it's not gonna feel Mincha, Neilah, the Napoleon's march. This is when it started to become lively. The Rebbe would go on to Mincha after the break. Davening, Rabbi Weinberg's davening before Lamed Hez, four o'clock. Come, come, we had epes was a break. How long the break would be, we have no idea. When the Rebbe is gonna come into Mincha, we knew the break is over. Didn't announce when. It's when the Rebbe was ready to come in. So some people could have gone home. Either they might have gotten busy or fallen asleep or something. They might come back just before Mincha. So you really had to be around because you had to figure, "Mishtam ha'cheshman m'tenev b'cheshman. Now a Mincha,

1:25:03 Speaker 1 now a Neilah." The Rebbe would come in with his hat, talis and kittel, and he would take his hat, put it into the drawer as he would open it on top, on, um, and then this would be chamayid. It had to be chamayid. Mincha would start. Maftir Yeno was gosh durhamdik. The Rebbe cried on Maftir Yeno. There was sufim, the Rebbe cried, right? And after Maftir Yeno was Neilah. What?

1:25:30 Speaker 8 They made Maftir Yeno as Rebbe's habit?

1:25:32 Speaker 1 I think so. And after Maftir Yeno began the clue of, of Neilah. There were times that the chazan, there was one time I remember the chazan rushed. Odam etem geshtupt. At times, sometimes, chevre were like, "Oy, jingir makar." The Rebbe took a watch, his watch, and he showed it to the mask and said, "Tell the chazan he should slow down. It's before. It's a lot before zman." And-

1:26:00 Speaker 8 He started coming with a watch.

1:26:02 Speaker 1 They had a watch, no. They had a, they placed the watch on the stand there. Farbrengen the Rebbe also had a watch.

1:26:10 Speaker 8 Yeah, during the

1:26:11 Speaker 1 No. So the Rebbe, uh, tell them to show that it's before, it's before the zman.

1:26:19 Speaker 8 Should have picked up the watch.

1:26:21 Speaker 1 Yeah. Show them, says, "Weisen that it's before zman." The Rebbe would extend, would stretch the nigun ki'or uamnecha from Neilah to be late longer and longer and longer because it was in tzat zman that it was weises early yet. There was one year, Tav Shin Lamed Zayin. This is going back forty-four years ago. Thirty, thirty-four years ago. It's a weises event that the kids, the Rebbe asked the kids should be on the bimah. It was a himil dike inyan almost. The Rebbe said, "Inyan, the kids should be on the bimah." And the Rebbe, well, the whole time through Neilah, the Rebbe cried, "Tav Shin Lamed Zayin."

1:26:59 Speaker 8 On the Rebbe's bimah?

1:27:00 Speaker 1 Late '76.

1:27:01 Speaker 8 On the Rebbe's bimah?

1:27:02 Speaker 1 Yeah. And, and, um, the Rebbe farbrengen, halamei sukkos with them, with the kids, the release time kids. It was the only farbrengen that took place in the sukkah after the Rebbe stopped farbrengen there. And there was something happening that year.

1:27:21 Speaker 8 How about that? What happened?

1:27:22 Speaker 1 The Gere Rebbe also came out sudden, that he sees Zechzeda and, uh, who is going instead. He was in that year, the Beis Yisroel. It was then, there was </i>maise</i> with the Epes of the Rebbe, a big 《maise</i>, with the Rebbe was crying in the Avinu Malkeinu, shreklach. The </i>kelos</i> from Mizrach, you can hear it,

1:30:52 Speaker 8 How did anybody know? People knew?

1:31:30 Speaker 1 We heard it in the morning already. People told us on the street that, because it was already there six hours ahead.

1:31:35 Speaker 8 The radio.

1:31:36 Speaker 1 No, there was a radio. It was mamish, which... The maskirim went over to the Rebbe before Boruch She Amar and told the Rebbe that the war broke out. The Rebbe says, "I know." The Rebbe knew four months earlier. All the </i>sichas</i>, all summer about chinuch and everything. You see the Rebbe knew about it.

1:31:55 Speaker 8 Is it possible, say, chassidishe, to calculate that, that there would've been any different? Say, based on, I mean, now just doing the-

1:32:05 Speaker 1 In Inyam?

1:32:06 Speaker 8 Yeah.

1:32:06 Speaker 1 The ones that needed to know in Israel knew, but they decided not to start the war in order not to be-

1:32:14 Speaker 8 Oh, for no reason

1:32:15 Speaker 1 ... the, quote, "bad people", unquote, like the '67 war. So they waited. So Golda Meir waited. Later, she was responsible for the hundreds of Karbanos- Right. For the hundreds of Karbanos that were killed in Spain in- instantly when they crossed the Suez Canal.

1:32:34 Speaker 8 Can you-

1:32:36 Speaker 1 The Rebbe always spoke about that war, that this is a war, possibly, that it was possibly negligent that they did not start the war and there were so many Karbanos. Everybody right on the border were all, were all destroyed. There was hundreds of soldiers. Because they wanted to be the good people.

1:32:56 Speaker 8 Thousands.

1:32:56 Speaker 1 Thousands, whatever it was, even mamish.

1:33:00 Speaker 8 No, no, it was like forty-five hundred soldiers.

1:33:04 Speaker 1 Over the war.

1:33:05 Speaker 8 The whole war.

1:33:06 Speaker 1 The war possibly took a few weeks. It went into Ches from the war.

1:33:10 Speaker 8 So what were you saying? The Polish march was-

1:33:13 Speaker 1 So that year, the Rebbe covered his face by Napoleon's march with a talis over his face, and with both hands was possibly just- Encouraging the singing, but the tallis would cover. When the Rebbe picked up the tallis, his face was mamish red from crying.

1:33:25 Speaker 8 On the chair.

1:33:27 Speaker 1 What? I think on the chair we need to-- He had a look down, he's going down, the chair. So he see past the face, he said, "He's standing event." And from then on, it happened quite often that Rebbe would cover his tallis over his face. After Maariv, the Rebbe would put on-- Before Maariv, the Rebbe put on his hat. After Maariv, the Rebbe would announce after Abdola, "Good Yom Tov three times." The good Yom Tov like, uh, Simchas Torah. Same spirit, the same atmosphere, same, uh, ruach. The Rebbe would walk out with a nigun, either with Selmach or his father's nigun, the Nigun Simchas Torah or Selmach. It's gonna be a Yom Tov. It was like a whole new season opened up. A whole new era opened up after that. Like the one part finished, other like Chassidim says, the smely tachas laveshi. There's more the, the solemn part, and then there's the joy, joyous part. The Rebbe went out to Kiddush Levanah, wea-whether permitted. And in the last years, noon on the Beis, the Rebbe spoke a sicha then by Kid-- after Kiddush Levanah about building the sukkah.

1:34:36 Speaker 8 Like before Pakistan. Sicha again on the third.

1:34:39 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:34:41 Speaker 8 Sorry. Rebbe made a sicha again about Pakistan.

1:34:43 Speaker 1 The Rebbe, bechalal, was very gentle with the Elul. When there used to be a Taanis Sheos, and the Rebbe, there were a few Taanis Sheos by the Rebbe. People fasted a half a day, and we davened Mincha, and we said, "Amenenu v'Mincha." The Rebbe spoke a sicha. The Rebbe says, "Ich vil nisht ufhalten de melam." The Elul is fasting. It's a tikkun, it's a burah. So there was a sicha ch lesen kirah. The Rebbe was very considerate in dizen yohnim, nisht ufhalten de melam. Bechalal eyn, this is all the part of, of, uh, Yom Kippur. It's chop shtond dor, menshen, shtal eyn aan.

1:35:15 Speaker 8 Doyer, doyer. Do yer, Rebbe.