Ep. 36: I Received a Brocha to Chazer Chassidus Clearly with Rabbi Shlomo Zarchi

00:00 Speaker 1 A bocher is a ibige and does whatever Rebbe wants and all the p'kunim and all everything. Rebbe finds a way how to, how to get into him. Rebbe finds a way to every bocher. Uh, this, the ruach of the Rebbe, the yechidus you come into. Well, you have to be an ibige and not be... You have your own stussen and you're devoted to do whatever you want. Rebbe finds a way.

00:30 Speaker 2 I'm Yossi Kamin. Welcome to Among Chasidim by Der Her, an ongoing farbrengen about life as a Chasid, our vibrant connection with the Rebbe, and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. Today's episode is brought to you by Keren Hachamesh. Keren Hachamesh is a fund that was started by the Rebbe right after Chof Beis Gad in honor of the Rebbe's sons. Stay tuned later in the episode to hear more about it. Shalom Aleichem, Rebbe Zachie. How are you?

01:02 Speaker 1 Boruch Hashem.

01:03 Speaker 2 Okay, thank you very much. Um, and I appreciate you making the time.

01:10 Speaker 1 For, for you and for if, if anybody will have a benefit from it, I'm always welcome, yeah.

01:16 Speaker 2 Okay. It's a lamed vov that people... I'm sure people will benefit.

01:20 Speaker 1 Yeah.

01:20 Speaker 2 So the first thing I wanna ask you, we'll start off, um, before you, maybe you could tell me a little bit about your mishpachah, from where you come, from your, your zeides, your, your parents. Maybe we'll start like that.

01:34 Speaker 1 Yeah. So I come from both sides, Chassidim. My father learned in, in, in fifty to ninety-three when all the yeshivas in Russia, in Russia and underground yeshivas. My mother's a Raskin. Her father was Shloime Raskin, and his father was Benzion Raskin. And my mother's mother was Micho... My mother's mother was Adarah Micho Sherbina, the famous Chassid. He's the uncle of Zalman Sherbina. In the sicha, there's a lot about Micho Sherbina and Zalman Sherbina. But my grandfather, my great-grandfather, he should marry off his children young. So my great-grandfather was by the Rebbe Rashab. He gave him ten hatsos. One hatsot he said, "That's not for your son because she's not gonna cover her hair." The second is, "That's not for you because she's not gonna be mechanech her children in the right way." One of those 12 daughter of Micho Sherbina. So Micho Sherbina is a heilige ibhir. You think about Micho Sherbina. So he came-- My zeide was 18 years old then, Shloime Raskin. She came to my zeide-

02:45 Speaker 2 He learned in Lubavitch?

02:46 Speaker 1 Huh?

02:46 Speaker 2 He learned in yeshiva in Lubavitch?

02:49 Speaker 1 Uh, how can I say? His brother learned. He didn't learn Lubavitch, but kol ponim. So my son, my, my, my zeide said, "First of all, I'm only 18 years old. I'm young still. Second of all, they'll take me to the army. And third of all, I don't want a girl from a village." Sherbina was next to Lubavitch, the village, where the Rebbe Rashab used to go to cut the vase for Pesach by Zalman Sherbina, by his shver. And there was behemoths there, and there was no people there. A few people there. He went back to the Rebbe Rashab with his son, said, "This Rebbe Sherbina is young, so chason the girl the way you'll get older." And Divia, she says, "They'll take him to the army." He said, "They're not gonna take him to army." And Micho Sherbina, he went from Moscow, he went to Gevat. Mich- Zalman Sherbina is a special ibhir. And his shver and his, uh, and his wife is a nephew of the Chosid, the Michla Rebbe. He was the Rov, the Michla Rebbe, the famous Rov. So all the letters of Michla Rebbe goes to him.

03:52 Speaker 2 Who, who's, uh, whose wife?

03:56 Speaker 1 Za-- Uh, uh, M-M-Micho Sherbina's wife, yeah. He, she's come from, uh, come from Zalman Sherbina, and he come from the Michla Rebbe's, uh, a, a niece or something. He was the Rov from Michla Rebbe. Uh, came back to my zeide. My zeide said, "You should have both Rebbes give a broche." She came back to Rebbe Rashab. She say, "Okay, you're going to the chosun. You go past Lubavitch anyway," because Sherbina was next to Lubavitch. "You come to him before the chosun and give him a broche." Anyway, they're going to the chosun. My great-grandfather, he says, um, yeah, uh, Rebbe Raskin went into the Rebbe Rashab, he was the ben bayis. So he asked, Rebbe Rashab asked him, "What are you doing here in the middle of the day?" The Rebbe Rashab was, was sitting in his, his zelepke. A zelepke is a, I guess it's a, uh, with, with two, two gold watches and a pocket.

04:55 Speaker 2 What, what is it? A vest?

04:55 Speaker 1 A vest. S-So he sang once a broche. A broche, the Rebbe Rashab get very serious. So the Rebbe should go out of the room. Rebbe Rashab put on his kapote, and so far then he said the chasan could come in. He put his hand on his head and he said, "So she should have brought some seforim, and seforim that she brought for the chosun under the chuppah, namzeh chod yiras Shamayim, kan uz derten a putzik yo, kinder sidun in, uh, uh, yiras Shamayim." He said the, uh, chosun under the chuppah takes a promise of yiras Shamayim, uh, can uz derten for fifty years, kinder sidun yiras Shamayim. That was the famous broche that he got, and Nisen Manov always a farbrengen, and Nisen Manov also married a Raskin. That's what, that special broche he told all his talmidim under the chuppah, you have to take a promise of yiras Shamayim. I, it's just some pleasure to think about the Rebbe's face on the chuppah. It's no secret one to each other. Uh, you try the Rebbe's panim from the chasan, we take on the promise of also yiras Shamayim. So this is where he comes from, and And of course, when my great-grandfather was by the Pshevitch Rebbe, the Rebbe of Sonchas Perer, and they said that he's going away from Russia after Sonchas Perer, she wrote to all his children, means to my zayde and to Itche Raskin that the father of Meyer Ribkin and, and the, and the other children. They said, "Abba,

06:31 Speaker 1 he's telling me they must come out in a migrah. The Rebbe is going away, and so everyone has to leave him and Rebbe goes away." Even though my zayde was just now by the Pshevitch Rebbe's shul, but he came, and all his kids came there. And the Rabashau went away after Sonchas Perer.

06:50 Speaker 2 Pshevitch Rebbe?

06:51 Speaker 1 I mean the Pshevitch Rebbe. And they say-

06:54 Speaker 2 Your father was there too?

06:55 Speaker 1 Huh?

06:55 Speaker 2 Your father was there too?

06:56 Speaker 1 Who?

06:56 Speaker 2 Your father?

06:57 Speaker 1 He's too young.

06:58 Speaker 2 He was born afterwards.

07:00 Speaker 1 He was born before. He was a young kid then.

07:02 Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

07:03 Speaker 1 And then they say that my grandfather took my grandfather when the train left already. He said, "Let's run. Call when you see the smoke, the Rebbe's still here." So they ran after the train till the smoke from the train went away. V'chol panim, this is you asked me before if my zayde learned Lubavitch. I said no. The Pshevitch Rebbe says in Hasicha that Shloime Raskin did not learn with, in Lubavitch, but he, he was around Tmenim. So he makes light the whole Canada, and that was the whole area around Gorkie where he lived. The whole area is, is Balash because of him. And he took my zayde, and she took Moshe Wesetsky, my father. He had all, all, he had all the... Shloime Raskin is famous, and Ari Leibe Raskin, the father of Michel Raskin, and Benzion Raskin was his son-in-law. His sister was the woman Sara, uh, the famous woman Sara that everybody knows, got an elevator in here. And so forth, there's more. I don't know if you wanna know all about his children, his, his aides, and so forth. So this is the story. And everybody knows that Shloime Raskin's house was a open house in Gorkie. Lubavitchers know, and Polisher Yidden in the old town knew he saved them in the hunger years. They ran away from Poland. He took them into the house. There was a Hasid in England always to kinda come to see us. Said he had the best place in my zayde's house. It was a small

08:35 Speaker 1 house. His feet were swollen. He put him under the table so no one could, could step on him, and he made the children wash his feet and soak it in water and so forth. There's more Yidden, they were alive just because Polisher Yidden, the Shechaad Yidden, because he saved their lives. Across to Lubavitch Yidden, there was a jail not too far from my zayde's house. You all went out of jail, and the ladies came to take their husband. They all ended up in my zayde's house, and all, they all tell me how he gave them everything that they needed. And my mother and my sisters all take care of, of everybody. This is about the family part.

09:16 Speaker 2 So this is all your mother's family?

09:17 Speaker 1 Yeah.

09:18 Speaker 2 And what is your father?

09:18 Speaker 1 My, my father's family is... My father's father, he supported the whole yeshiva in Litovsk. Hershel the Hasid, I saw the letters from the Chacham Fagin to the Pshevitch Rebbe in Poland that my great-- my father's father, he's, he was a Hasid, but he supported the whole yeshiva in, in, in Litovsk. Yeah. And, and Nadalia was a Rov there. My father was the best friend with Nadalia's kids, Nadalia himself. When he come, he used to come from England with Hillke Nadalia, and he used to always stay in our house. Yeah.

09:51 Speaker 2 And your, your parents got married in Russia?

09:54 Speaker 1 Oh, my parents were married in Russia, and my father came here for, for a few years. He was a shadchan. He ran around the whole America. He ran around the whole America.

10:03 Speaker 2 And where were you born?

10:04 Speaker 1 I was born in Brooklyn.

10:06 Speaker 2 So you're born after the war?

10:07 Speaker 1 After, in Brooklyn. Yeah.

10:08 Speaker 2 In Brooklyn.

10:09 Speaker 1 And, and school in-

10:10 Speaker 2 One second. Didn't your father have, um, a connection with the Rebbe's father?

10:14 Speaker 1 Well, and the Rebbe once told Rav Shlomo, Shlomo Pohren, he doesn't know how people are going shlichas, but my father, the few years that he was a shadchan, he opened up the doors of Moshiach in America. That's so probably. Yeah.

10:28 Speaker 2 Yeah.

10:28 Speaker 1 V'chol panim, my father once told me that with Pesach Sheini, he saw the Rebbe's father in, in Moscow. He asked that, uh, he asked him to come in to far, far, farbrengen like a little shul with him. He farbreched.

10:45 Speaker 2 So, so the Rebbe's father came to Moscow Pesach Sheini?

10:48 Speaker 1 Yeah. He was sitting there, and my father saw him outside. He asked him to come in and to far, and to farbrengen a little bit.

10:55 Speaker 2 Your father saw the Rebbe, the Rebbe's father-

10:57 Speaker 1 Yeah

10:57 Speaker 2 ... and asked him to come in? Okay.

10:59 Speaker 1 And he farbreched. There was all the chassidim from Machonim and all other young guys. They listened what he farbreched, and he farbreched very geschmack. My father told me a lot of the words that Rebbe's father said them by farbrengen. And I heard all these things later from the Rebbe, these Peirushim on Tehillah, a lot of chassidim were around the same in Yoni. Since my father knew him, later someone told him the Rebbe's father is sent away in Dr. Narmana, next Narmana, in all these places, and he doesn't have what to eat, nothing to drink. My father send him two packages, three pa, pa, sulkas, as you call it in Russia. You know, two packages, and this-

11:42 Speaker 2 Food?

11:43 Speaker 1 Food and anything, uh, whatever they need. He sent him two big packages. So the Rebbe's mother, like it writes in Yiddish Heim, that was written by, by what you call it? By, in, in the, in the Yiddish Heim, that... And she writes, Nissan Gordon wrote 10 articles in Yiddish Heim. In this article, she says him, they got six packages from people. She writes the names of four p- four packages, and two packages is from a person that is, from a good friend who still don't know who he is My father, before he passed away, he told me the story. I didn't know it either. I said, "He never wrote to the Rebbe? I should write to the Rebbe that he helped his father." And fine. But could be that's why the Rebbe gave me and my brother mashke. My father passed away, even though he didn't give nobody any mashke then. Some people, he called on me and my brother to give us mashke, and he passed away on the Shabbos after that. So your father never wrote to the Rebbe that he did- That he gave it? No. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Why? So you're saying maybe that's why the Rebbe- And then the Rebbe's mother, we were very close because my parents and her, they went in the same train going out of Russia, and my father was very devoted to her and helped her a lot. One second. But they met, they met in Paking? Yeah. Uh, but the... On the train going, they

13:04 Speaker 1 met her. Actually, they weren't in Paking at the same time, is it? Yeah. And later, they met in Paking, but before that was on the same train. Oh, sorry, from leaving Russia on the way to Paking. Yeah, and he helped her a lot. He helped her maybe in Paking, in Germany also. Honestly, whenever she saw me outside, she used to call me over and speak to me. She used to send me to Michl Raskin to take a package for her and put it by the, by the door so where Yankel Lipsk could pick up her package. She's very... Whenever I passed her, I went across street, and she called me over, and she spoke with me. I once swallowed a nail in, in Germany. It was very dangerous. She always- You swallowed a nail? Yeah. She always reminded me about the nail that I swallowed, the ｡ And twice a year, she made a kiddish in her house with, and both times we used to come to her house. We used to help her put to the table and both the soul and mashke. I was always like a, a young kid helping her out in her things. And always, she, she... It was a very interesting story once. We were outside, and me and a few friend of mine, and the Rebbe's m- mother asked us which nigun did the Rebbe learn, and I thought it was a, a, like a manner. She said, "Oh, it's my tata's nigun." Well, she wants to go

14:14 Speaker 1 to the, uh, Rebbe. So we walked up to Seven Seven. Then the ladies were also downstairs. Those ladies, the ladies way from Australia, they sat in the back on benches and so forth. We took her downstairs. She went on the bench. So we asked her if she would tell the Rebbe that she's here. He says, "No." She- She stood on the bench? Yeah. Two minutes later, she was standing. Rebbe turned around his head and looked to the back, and they both eyes met. Then she said she could go home already. She saw the Rebbe already and so forth. But the Rebbe falls right away. Then she came in, into, into the shul, yeah. This was by... This was in the morning after the Rebbe taught the nigun? Yeah. Yeah. So very early in the morning? Yeah. Uh, so, um, so you were born in Paking, and the only- Yeah. But everybody, most of them left Paris as well. We also send a package every Paris as well. There were a lot of them in the future, Rebbe, we should go to Paris as well. But then if you got the So you come to America, and, uh, right away y- your parents moved to Crown Heights? Oh. Yeah. No, we were in Brownville, Yeah. Who moved to Crown Heights? People have money. We were very poor. We had no money. We lived in Brownville. We used to walk. I used to walk Shabbos in Brooklyn, every Shabbos in Brooklyn. I used to walk to Seven

16:23 Speaker 1 Seventy or on Shabbos. There was a meshichist, a cabinet used to live there also. He also walked. I used to walk together with him. My father left earlier, and I met later in Shabbos, but we always walked. On Tisha time, we were always by our cousin, Meir Ritken. He had a big house in, in, on Kingston and Parkway. So later on sixty-eighty-two Eastern Parkway. We always, uh, uh, sleep on the floor in his house. Every Simchat Torah, a whole Simchat Torah, we were in Meir Ritken's house until we moved to Crown Heights, yeah. So when you were a young kid coming to Seven Seventy by the Faberingans, where would the kids, uh, hang out? Where would they sit? Uh, sure. First of all, when, when we- You remember the, you remember the Faberingans in the small zal? Sure. What a question. This was until... This was in the later years. So where, where were the kids hanging out in the, in the zal? Well, first of all, when we came, I didn't know no English, know nothing. But now we just say to them, "Bet didn't D. You have to learn English here today." There was no other way. We just sitting like a gentleman there. Then top chin, tes wow- I'm sorry. How old were you when you came to America? Ah, four, four years old. So you already knew how to speak, but not English. Before I went, yeah, we know no English, know nothing. But then top chin, when we tes wow,

17:43 Speaker 1 Rebbe spoke a sicha. Rebbe cried a lot. Uh, uh, what you call it? That they wish to give the matana, uh, parents children. The first thing they do is they talk to midrash hal. They talk a whole sicha, and he was crying and going to midrash hal, and he, and he gave out a thing. So two months old, there's a issur that you shouldn't learn no English. Then nine years old, he's eischken not to learn. But two months old, that's the corner. So, so the next day, everybody went out of English grades. They made a klez special for us. Well, not a, a special grade. Kids from the klez high or klez low, they met with the whole klez, and we learned the whole day midrash hal. But you didn't move to the other cheder? Some say it was not there yet.

18:26 Speaker 2 It happened then, no?

18:27 Speaker 1 Huh?

18:27 Speaker 2 Didn't it start then?

18:28 Speaker 1 No, no. A year too late of Shanghai, I know what happened.

18:31 Speaker 2 That's right.

18:32 Speaker 1 And, and, and this is how, how it went. Then we came nine years old, some kids went back to English, some kids stayed the whole time. And so certain people who went to high school for my chaverim took a went. But since the chaverim year, we used to go down to the parent and farbrengen with them, sh-speak with them. Not a shondel Weinberg. His father used to go collect the South Africa money. He, he made-- he told his son to go away, not visit his father. It was a whole yell start over. Everybody, they should go to English, not another high school for sure not. And we came, we came a whole, came a whole thing. So on the Deitsch went to English. He spoke to some Deitsch. He went down to the country special. From there in the country went to Shabbos. He went down to the country. He farbrengen with Mashke.

19:17 Speaker 2 Yeah.

19:17 Speaker 1 He farbrengen some Deitsch to take his son out of English, yeah. The two nine years old, nobody went. But after nine years old, the Russian lady, the mother saw the children, the parents, the husband not making no parnasah because they don't know English. They didn't want their children to, to go out that way. Quite so, quite. And this is how it, how it went.

19:39 Speaker 2 That's what the Rebbe was trying to address.

19:41 Speaker 1 Huh?

19:42 Speaker 2 That's what the Rebbe was trying to address.

19:44 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

19:44 Speaker 2 This whole concern-

19:45 Speaker 1 Yeah

19:45 Speaker 2 ... and preoccupation of people with parnasah.

19:48 Speaker 1 Right, right. No, shichah. Rebbe spoke about it a few times. That was called it the, um, in, in, in Gilme he spoke about it. That it sort of-- it says the way in the Machiv, uh, Heprah Chaim, the Idna time of Mordechai, because they, they were... They, they, they didn't, um, didn't ever sound supposed to. One of the time Rebbe spoke about, about the Mudikol, the Zecharia from Medina from Mudikol. Go later in, in the room and cry yourself out. "Where is the home hanoish?" She says, "She nanem mesudeh sheleiser, uh, Osher." God wants us to know, even if it's for eight or seven shetiyah and take veil from Medina or seven going to Mudikol, we gotta be proud of it. Later go to a, a room and veins are who is good. Rebbe spoke very sharp against Dina from, from the Mudikol, you know. So that's when we learned the whole day in Mudik Yiddish. And from until fourteen, we learned through this Epbaniti, Solomon Tanya, Rabbi Liszt, and Dov Raschnitz. Then we went to Yale. Talking about Chabad Gimmel, we learned about Yale in Latin Din.

21:08 Speaker 2 Okay, so before you get to Yale, I wanna hear about that. But I wanna ask you certain things that you remember from when you were a kid in seventeen seventy.

21:16 Speaker 1 There was many such things. With chapter Yud Gimmel, what is the famous shiur that Rebbe spoke about the, the... It's Hanukah, I remember. He spoke about that which we call it the... It says in the Chaim of, of, of, of, of, um, "Al kol ha'ayen adir bekacho." That practically you, how you daven, you learn, "Al kol ha'ayen adir bekacho" it says. You daven and you learn, and later you go to eat, you, you look for manna, ha-ha-hayah, a good portion, it says. And later you look for if the portion is missing salt, you spill some salt. "Ad beheim marplid bazet bezalf", the fashion of mouth. And it was very-- Rebbe cried on that in the shiur of this Hanukah. But there's many time like this, especially there was a famous time when the downstairs then in seventeen seventy was very poor. There was no goyim. It came on a Sukkot day. It should be like a Shabbos by day. It was Friday night and Shabbos. Those two goyim take away the, the mashke. It wasn't the bikur, but the dirt people used to farbrengen, uh, uh, uh, uh, make hachnas on seventeen downstairs. And it was cold. There was no heater, especially it was cold.

22:33 Speaker 2 The shalash, you mean.

22:34 Speaker 1 Shalash, yeah. It was cold that time. So Yechem Gordon was upstairs. My dad had gone down to tefillim Shabbos Chabad Breishes. Said, "Maybe we should say tefillim upstairs, but down here, it's cold and schmutzik." But everyone downstairs. Rebbe spoke about it, about farbrengen such a chayo to it. There was, you call it, that the first Elul or Shonen or such Michuler in Sukkos, after some day, after Chabad Breishes, the English wanted to know what doing by Eden. They send a shliach. On the end, it's a cold and schmutzik, but Rebbe's laying on the table, and he was crying. The Gabbi not shuldi. He's just a messenger. Sh'shliach neshamayim. The first one was tutzer by Eden that was crying so much, and it's a cold and schmutzik. So years later was Hanukah time also in the mammitz. Downstairs was so cold, everyone was in coats. So also the Gabbi, wherever he was, Mamid Gimmel, he can go and buy the way, maybe she could be princess or something else. So Rebbe tzarf ros on him.

23:46 Speaker 2 Frost.

23:46 Speaker 1 He said, "Maybe she tefill him upstairs, please." Rebbe went downstairs to say tefillim. The only time we went to say tefillim upstairs, later in the time of the sfarim, Rebbe's foot was hurting him. He couldn't even walk. He have to hold on to the side when going out of a farbrengen, the side of the thing to hold on. And they told Rebbe, "Your foot is not..." He said, "It's not from this. It's looks like it's nerves." It's now time of the sfarim. So what you call it, so Rebbe said a story when the Belzoth that which we call it a lady would read in sana-- uh, Chana, and she read the story of Yosef and his brothers, and she cried. Chana said, "Yosef and his brothers sold him this and that." The next year, she read again. Again, the story of Yosef and brothers. "Why'd you go again? And why'd you go again?" He knows from the... "I'm not gonna cry this year." Rebbe said, "Once it was a cold and schmutzik. I took it to heart. I learned inyan of avodas Hashem. But now, mikich nochamo, I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna take it to my heart." Yeah. So it was very, you know, a cold and schmutzik. So Rebbe was trying to wisdom Elam. It should be warmer. And the truth, when they built the shul downstairs, Rebbe said bachlan, they should build in such a way they could open up for a roof. That's namely for Sukkah, and there should be

25:10 Speaker 1 a Sukkah downstairs. And later, when the whole story was Sukkos, the Mahler got hurt, and the Rebbe stopped farbrengen Sukkahs. It was all Chassidim came to the Rebbe, he should farbrengen. But find this way, they want to make on top of the tzach a, a Sukkah. That all the people can't walk so, so high up, and they could be here, and they could be there. Rebbe say, "I have for me a place where everybody could go to and not to constrain. And I beg when they build the shul, they should make it for Sukkah." So they answered me, "You can't, uh, you can't, and you can't. Everybody has it, and he, he not gonna go nothing." That was very upset. We came that year, Shabbos is Al Hamichyah nine o'clock in the morning.

25:50 Speaker 3 What year?

25:51 Speaker 1 I don't know. After the story of Malmung.

25:54 Speaker 3 Okay.

25:54 Speaker 1 So the next s-s, the Sukkah Al Hamichyah, and also with bringing the Lammed, it was in the UN Hall, Shul, the Rebbe farbrenged downstairs without mashke, because Sukkah time.

26:06 Speaker 3 Sukkot.

26:06 Speaker 1 Malmung brought some game, um, and he had a rick with a special fat farbrengen also, but without wine, without mashke. This was, yeah. And so, and like this was a lot of nigunim like this, yeah. Yeah.

26:24 Speaker 3 You remember, um, the nigunim, the Rebbe teaching the nigunim?

26:28 Speaker 1 Sure. I remember all the, all the nigunim. Since we were kids, we lived in Brownsville. We used to live on May Epchen. And we s- I roamed around on Sunday. I didn't have a house there. So we used to be in Dov Ber Askinitz's, a cousin of mine. So I stayed in his room. We had some food there to eat. And then we were downstairs. So I was there all the nigunim from Tzamah Nafshi.

26:50 Speaker 3 Which was in Simchas Torah.

26:51 Speaker 1 Simchas Torah.

26:53 Speaker 3 Tzamah Nafshi?

26:53 Speaker 1 Yeah.

26:54 Speaker 3 It was?

26:55 Speaker 1 Eh, Tzamah, not Tzamah. That, not that one. I mean Ki, I mean Ki, I mean Darko and Ki Ana Mechaveh was the first nigun. Ki Ana Mechaveh and Darkocha, yeah. Darkocha was the first one maybe. Ki, Ki Ano was the second one, yeah. I remember how the Rebbe came down and sat down and got up on a milk box. Nobody knew he's coming. And so he stood up, he looked in the sky, said some words of, uh, it's wicked, it's getting late outside, and started singing Ki, uh, Ki Ana Mechaveh, yeah. Nobody knew he came out. So like this, Rebbe always used to sing the new nigunim in the back of the shul, mamish before you go on the steps upstairs. A little table, a little thing. And everybody-

27:40 Speaker 3 This is all in the, in the Shalash.

27:41 Speaker 1 Yeah. And everybody was around the Rebbe, yeah.

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29:48 Speaker 1 The first nigun the Rebbe sang on the bimah, where he farbrengs, was, was what you call it, was, um, was, uh, uh-

29:56 Speaker 3 You're saying fir-first it was on a milk crate, and then the Rebbe sang on the bimah.

29:59 Speaker 1 And we were higher from it.

30:00 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

30:00 Speaker 1 The bimah was Chabad first.

30:02 Speaker 3 Mm-hmm.

30:02 Speaker 1 And, and, and, and it was on, I guess it, the famous nigun that the Chabad Chassid dance the whole night in Simchat Torah.

30:12 Speaker 3 Anias Y米ras.

30:12 Speaker 1 Anias Y米ras. So this is a nigun, the Rebbe, the first nigun of Chabad that the Rebbe sang by the bimah. And many Chassidim always used to say, "When do we become a Chossid from Anias Y米ras?" He came Chabad Lubavitch bochur, said, "Pkiros and Hakafos did not take him so much. What took him the most was Anias Y米ras." Right. And the Rebbe told the story. He came down with, with Natal Babish Sidur then, because Anias Y米ras doesn't say now a Sidur and-

30:39 Speaker 3 It's Ashkenaz.

30:40 Speaker 1 Ah, yeah. It's fine also.

30:42 Speaker 3 Right, also.

30:42 Speaker 1 Yeah. I still remember every single time, when the last time Tov Snow got buried, when they came down to learn the nigun, they became very sharp Became mitzvah now she m-m-mother. But the truth is, it wasn't at the time the Rebbe was teaching a niggun. It was a time the Rebbe was giving mashki and sheke yosoff limud hachidas. In the meantime, he sang a niggun, but it was not made this whole thing for learning new niggunim. He said we, the mashki is for yosoff limud hachidas, and many people go over take mashki, they don't want hachidas, they're not necher limud hachidas. So I'm gonna stop it. It will be the last time. If people go over, they don't want hachidas, and they'll make it yosoff limud hachidas, it's not gonna be anymore. I'm gonna stop the whole thing. Not to walk in all the kids around know when to take, and they don't know when to come home.

31:29 Speaker 4 They know when it's said.

31:30 Speaker 1 And nobody controlled them, and nobody did this. And, and, and also meaning till then, always the Rebbe started first learning the niggunim. People were pushing me after chof Ches to get good place by the niggun. And then the Rebbe started coming in middle of mashki. Then he sang another time, but first started the niggun. So everybody was pushing close. Here, the Rebbe started giving mashki first. So nobody wanted to take the mashki, because if you take mashki, you have to go away. They're sitting by the Rebbe, by the both side. They'll sing one give. Even you took it, there was no that other guy that was pushing the people. It was all very upsetting. Rebbe told Rabbi Episkin that he's given five more minutes mashki. He has to be making a tabeitha, uh, uh, a filler. Then they wouldn't set the miksham like today. So the Rebbe said he not giving no more mashkis. People went home. Rebbe was still sitting there. People went home also. But the boychats, we stood, called on the Rebbe's deal, we stood. So the Rebbe said, "B'kedi shlis un zeige, bar yom m'chlayin noch a niggun." He sang the whole Hinei Chen then. Next Shabbos, Shabas day morning, they always sing when Rebbe comes into shul, the niggun Rebbe learned the night before. Some sang, they call it, some sang, they said, uh, uh, the Kiron HaMechon. He taught them the Kiron HaMechon. The, from both shul is "Kiron HaMechon." And then he sang Hinei Chen. Some sang Kiron

33:00 Speaker 1 HaMechon. They didn't know the other niggun. And I'm glad they were there, and we were chain, and fine. So then was two niggunim, and that's it. And next year, when the Rebbe's, uh, uh, finished our chof Ches, he say, "Ya'atov v'yichata nog." Like we've no, nothing to be labor. So every fourth day is chof Hey, because the Rebbe just became a ovvu, his mother, it was Chana. That's why. But that was the last time. The Rebbe Taken mentioned one Shabas day, one of his days, uh, before people came, there were a few things they stopped. One of the things was learning a new niggun. Even though there's more niggunim they had in mind to teach everybody, but since then they didn't, they, they weren't made for limud hachidas, so it stopped. So the few things they stopped, a new niggun, give on Kitzur Shichez. That year, they w- he wouldn't give on Kitzur Shichez, and people write to him, "The Malach of Kitzur Shichez." Said, "Me you have to write, tell the Malach Kitzur Shichez, it's Moshe Yodam. Call the Chassid Moshe Yodam." Also because the reason they not, not give a Kitzur Shichez, and Chanukah yell he stopped. People in France, they had Chanukah, they begin with Dalet, the Frankists would give a Dalet. Uh, he stopped Chanukah yell. This, and that is it. Then Shabas day, Chanukah yell stopped, and our niggun stopped, and give on Kitzur Shichez stopped, and so forth and so forth. It's the last thing to speak about for

34:30 Speaker 1 the year, so b-b-but what do you wanna know about now?

34:32 Speaker 4 So you, uh, you remember also, uh, what about the other niggunim, like Shamil?

34:36 Speaker 1 Sure, Shamil. Shamil was the niggun. Rebbe cried so much in this niggun. Uh, uh, in the Moshel, when the Rebbe told the story of the Moshel, of Shamil, and the way the tsar want to capture him, and he couldn't get captured. So he fooled them. He told them, "Come down, we'll make peace." Then he arrested him. They put him to jail in, uh, in, in shackles and, uh, chained. So s-sitting in jail outside the kittel, the first part was he's thinking about the good day. He was in the high mountain driving a horse. He was on high. He was freedom. And, and second part is the way now he's sitting in chains. And the Rebbe was crying so much by the first two part in the story. The third part is the, the hope, a g-good day will come down again. He will be again on top of the mountain driving his horse, and so forth. Actually, the, the, the Moshel, the song, to learn "Herod nabed es Hashem" and "Yechi l'san Shomo lamechu" the way-- and Shomo is pulled down, and he comes down to Agur. The first part is he's thinking about the good days. He was in Gan Eden, "Chatzivas kisa hakovod," and now he's jailed into Agur, and, uh... And the third part, the good day will come again. Here, the Rebbe did not cry in the Nimshul. He cried by the Moshel.

35:59 Speaker 4 The Moshel.

36:00 Speaker 1 He cried very much by the Moshel. Till the Rebbe was in the Sefer, people were shaking. Rebbe Mayer was going, "Rebbe," it was going happiness and sadness. And Shomo Roza was shaking, was screaming, "Rebbe," and it was, it was, it was very in the heart because the Rebbe, the way it's-- the way the Rebbe told the niggun, his face, and his crying was, uh, uh, it was, it was something special to see and to hear. It was, it was very sp- it was very special, yeah.

36:30 Speaker 4 Hmm.

36:32 Speaker 1 Which other niggun you wanna know?

36:33 Speaker 4 What about, um, I think I heard from you about the Shavia Pitu.

36:39 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, Shavia, Shavia Pitu. This was Chof, Chof, Chof Gimel, yeah. So he sang, uh, Chof Gimel. Yeah, so he sang it most part, yeah. They said there was no word that, that Shavia says to it or the song has to either fabringen This was before Eitz Hakofet, but then the next night it was again a farbrengen. The Rebbe told again the story about the nigun, Matavi Bitvu, Machsid Mehor, Bitvu Tatso Yah, Ya'an Nam Shaker, Ya'an Nam Sameach, Vankudu Terei. He spoke of the whole hevra of the nigun. Then the Rebbe sang the nigun again. He sang the nigun again. The Rebbe got with his benen, uh, patrachter and start singing. The Rebbe was, was in, uh, at Veikes. Then he opened his eyes. Far was koktzer at mir. Was kokt now at mir. It's making me mirry, he pointed on himself. It's ma- he went to Yem, it's making me dear. He was looking for Rabbi Moshe Anton. He used to stand that side next to us. It's making dear. Cheyven Tzedek Od, Od Davar Peke. That's really Cheyven Tzedek. And that year, Rebbe said that in the ohrim that come, Tzedek Od Davar Peke, they should be heard the bochum, everything that he learned the whole year before. It should be davka the ohrim. The Roshesivahs wanted him to know good. But the ohrim then... For mentally, he used to pay the ohrim, Menashe Sol, for Montreal, Adik Shve. For Menashe Sol always used to pay the ohrim. Sometimes there was no ohrim,

38:16 Speaker 1 he paid them to come. They should be heard the bochum. And mentally, this was the most serious thing. In Tishrei time-

38:22 Speaker 4 Because that was the Rebbe-

38:23 Speaker 1 The Rebbe said they roar. The boch gets heard. He was in his garretl for two weeks and screamed that every bochur should go for heard. Nobody wanted to go, you know. Then a time later, what you call it, the Rebbe would sing most of Sabitu. He went up to Tishma and he would end for a long time. Then another cry, "Min Hashamayim." Yeah. And also, you know, out of Tishma Min Hashamayim was very at Veikes, yeah. Mm. And the same thing when Rebbe told, uh, what you call it? Rebbe told Shamil's nigun, the Shabbos Eitzah, they sang the nigun again. Ay, ya, ya, ya, ya. Rebbe said the first part is where Shamil is thinking the way he's in the mountains with his guides, with the horses. You have to hear a shaker, not ay, ya, ya. Ay, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, yo. You have to hear a shank with the first part, the way he's thinking he's on top of the mountains and shaking his own, yeah. Yeah. The same thing, every nigun there was, uh, uh-

39:41 Speaker 4 Atah Vechetanu.

39:43 Speaker 1 Atah Vechetanu, there's the two part. Atah Vechetanu about the chuvah. When you sing Ki Anu Amecha, praise Chaval. Should we sang when he wants Ki Anu Amecha? That was from, from Tzadikim. This part is about chuvahs. About chuvahs' action. He says, "Ki Anu Amecha v'yaato mikeinu, ya, ya, ya, ya, ooh." And not come on, ya, ya, ya, ay, ay, ay. About chuvahs' action, he doesn't let go. Ay, ya, ya, ya. So just like we spoke about Atah Vechetanu, there's two part. The first part is one part, "Ei yaato vechetanu." The second part is "Atah Vechetanu," that part from about chuvahs. About chuvahs says everything two time.

40:21 Speaker 4 Hmm.

40:22 Speaker 1 But it was interesting thing. He once said, "The highest part, 'B'shemcha, God of our Kodesh, omaynu ch- choso,' even Atah Vechetanu, Atah Pisono, the highest part, this is the highest inyun, 'B'shemcha, God of our Kodesh, omaynu ch- choso v'kol,' they wish the, they wish his names on us more." Yeah, fine. Same thing, every nigun there was something, yeah.

40:47 Speaker 4 So let me ask you about, um, other-

40:50 Speaker 1 Eichach Monet Beoni, this was Rebbe's, uh, uh, Rebbe's Chana's father's nigun song. This was, uh, yeah.

40:57 Speaker 4 Yeah, and she asked you about it.

40:58 Speaker 1 Huh? Yeah, and this was her father's nigun, yeah.

41:02 Speaker 4 What about other nusachim in Tishrei? Like what? Like Napoleon's-

41:06 Speaker 1 Huh?

41:07 Speaker 4 Napoleon's march.

41:08 Speaker 1 Oh. Napoleon's march was, was like this. Uh, yeah. And Rebbe always advanced Napoleon march on the floor. It was, it was on the floor. We were kids. He always... Rebbe Chaim used to the whole Hashem keeper behind, behind the Rebbe. So-

41:24 Speaker 4 You, you all-- You're referring to the shalash the whole time?

41:26 Speaker 1 Yeah.

41:27 Speaker 4 Mm-hmm.

41:29 Speaker 1 The baderech was a shul already.

41:30 Speaker 4 Mm-hmm.

41:31 Speaker 1 But we always stood behind Rebbe, me and Levi Shapira. It was because of us, the crowd knew to st- to, to sing what you call it, HaDerv Muna. Rebbe, Rebbe's hand, I say, "But nobody saw." And there was nobody closer to Rebbe to see it. We were kids. We were behind the Rebbe. We told the crowd. But one time, Rebbe turned around to us, "Mm, mm," he just saw that, me and I, I look at him the whole time, yeah. Even when, when Shavuos, Rebbe used to... The longest part, farbrengen of Rebbe was Shavuos time. He used to farbrengen 4:00 in the morning, Shavuos. I went to Kol Sha'ar HaBracha once 5:00 in the morning. Rebbe told me, "A rich bed, the plot's not rich," yeah.

42:08 Speaker 4 You were a kid?

42:09 Speaker 1 Yeah. A young, mamish a young kid.

42:13 Speaker 4 So you're saying about Napoleon's march.

42:14 Speaker 1 Huh? Huh?

42:16 Speaker 4 The Rebbe did on the floor.

42:17 Speaker 1 Yeah, on the floor. It was once a Shabbos I think before. Then he say, "Ki Anu," not-- When he sing Avinu Malkeinu on Shabbos. It came to Avinu Malkeinu, Rebbe started to cry. You're able to hear in the whole shul that Rebbe's crying. Rebbe cried Avinu Malkeinu. You're able... In the whole shul, it looked like a c- somebody's screaming. And, uh, uh, yeah. It was a question, which we stay? At that time, it matched Yene. Yene was also interesting at that time. Sometimes Rebbe cried and whatnot. But if he stood there, you couldn't get into the march and behind the Rebbe mamish. But Yene knew us. He stood there, and then he asked us to let, to let us in. Mm-mm. So he got in, in front, and, and we let, we, we let him in.

43:05 Speaker 4 So you had both?

43:06 Speaker 1 Yeah. He, he, he was our mashpia when we were young, yeah So as you recall it then, the Rebbe was still crying from the Beis Hamikdash. The Rebbe was crying, he had a tallis over his head, and there was dents on the floor. Then-- And crying, you could have heard the Rebbe crying from the two palace, the whole place. Then in the middle of, of denting and crying, the Rebbe went on top of the chair. We were so afraid we stood mamish in front that we shouldn't fall down. He went up with tallis to here, and went on and, and jumping on the chair, and the chair is a rubber chair, you know. We, we looked at the other dents and everything, but I remember I had a fright, the Rebbe should... What, what, what. That was the first time the Rebbe went on the chair. From then he went every year on the chair, and years later, years later, he made it higher, you know, from the chair he went higher, and yeah.

43:55 Speaker 4 Steps.

43:56 Speaker 1 Yeah. Makap on him. It was the first time the Rebbe went on the chair with mamish, yeah.

44:02 Speaker 4 Hmm.

44:03 Speaker 1 Yeah.

44:05 Speaker 4 So, um, uh-huh, so you meant this is after Chavrei, this whole thing?

44:10 Speaker 1 Oh, Chavrei was a special simchas, yeah. Well, it was Rosh Hashanah and Sukkot, yeah. But then simchas, Berke Chen came that simchas from Russia. Berke Chen, Mosle Chen's father, you know. And, uh, he came with a hat to the far-farbrengen. The first Rebbe said with a kaskette. I say, "I left it at home." He said, "At eight o'clock you go home and get his kaskette. Meantime, you could put a tichel, a napkin on his head." And he went and got a kaskette. And Rebbe gave him a Rosh Balab mashke. Rebbe asked him every once in a while to go give him mashke. He went up it. Rebbe started to drink a lot of mashke. And then there was a leader here from, from Chabad, uh, from a leader that said he should sing a nigun from Israel. He sang "Tunegudim" One nigun "Kad Yaakov" from Israel the Rebbe didn't accept, you saw that. Then he sang "Yes od mache" then the first time. This nigun Rebbe accepted, and danced, and... And Rebbe was drinking a lot of mashke, and he's thinking about the Russian Idna lot. Then suddenly Rebbe got up in the middle of far-farbrengen, "Machna deden, vel paskenen" that the Idnas should go out of Russia. Rebbe was think- it was a steamy sicha. Id-Idnas should go out of Russia, bakulu bakulu with the whole thing. And then Rebbe was the whole time was singing "El malei rachamim". You wanna hear all the sichas about, the sichas about... And then the Rebbe also

45:49 Speaker 1 said, "Vaysaz ein yu prati tzu giv mashke." So people went out, there was a mashke store there in Kings near me. Probably a hundred and fifty Idna went out to buy mashke. There was a whole line from the Rebbe's table to the door. People give mashke, and everybody, Rebbe give big broches. They tell you it was big broches then. And Rebbe said, "Ah, yeah." And then Rebbe saying to certain people, "You have... You learn Sichos, I write it to Nafshi," you know, I mean, uh, it was a whole, it was a whole... It was very... And gave everybody mashke, yeah. I mean, the guys people give mashke, and Rebbe from every bottle he poured some-something in his becher. When he filled up, Rebbe said l'chaim, he drank out the becher. He drank out from your becher because it was only a big crowd. Every bottle Rebbe spilled off mashke in his becher. And he poured mashke into his becher, and Rebbe said l'chaim, after it was full, and he said l'chaim. And then you saw Rebbe was drinking a lot of mashke. So they risked him on over to the Rebbe, "Rebbe should watch his health," and, uh, Shmuel Viten worked well with Jacobson fine. They was on this on the Shimon and Id. Everybody to go over to the Rebbe. Rebbe was drinking a whole cup, a whole cup of mashke, a whole becher of mashke. Then Rebbe said, "Vad, Vel, Ribken zorg, veys az aleini shuld mos agend." Vad said, "Shmuel zorg, kud

47:06 Speaker 1 de kude Ayisov av zorg, ikh am afreyte starap ikh fun im."

47:11 Speaker 4 Well, had the, had the Rebbe call him Shmuel?

47:12 Speaker 1 The kude Ayisov av zorg.

47:15 Speaker 4 Ayisov?

47:16 Speaker 1 Avm Kutais, no. Avm Kutais from Georgia, no.

47:19 Speaker 4 I heard from Leibish.

47:20 Speaker 1 Arakshikov.

47:21 Speaker 4 Arakshikov, yeah. Okay, yeah.

47:24 Speaker 1 He had two names. Rebbe used to call him sometimes Arakshikov and sometimes Kutaisov.

47:27 Speaker 4 Kutais. Mm-hmm.

47:28 Speaker 1 From Arakshikov time. And I understood from that day it said Arakshikov.

47:33 Speaker 4 Mm-hmm.

47:35 Speaker 1 Yeah. Later it was Arakshikov from Kutais he was before, you know. If, ikh hamear aunfain a dokhmentern iz ikh... Mear ikh bashteyne mos agend, and Berel had gesagt, and he doesn't know what he's talking about. And I'm Kutais, and Arakshikov says he, he doesn't know what he's saying. Mosel Shimon says maybe like this. I shagg one through here what Rebbe told every older chozen.

48:01 Speaker 4 What?

48:01 Speaker 1 I shagg one through here what Rebbe telling every older chozen.

48:05 Speaker 4 Mm-hmm.

48:05 Speaker 1 A few things Rebbe didn't. Rebbe said, "Ibbische bekhe? Nach a mol. Mik-mik Purim. Ibbische bekhe da?"

48:12 Speaker 4 Purim he told the Rebbe also.

48:14 Speaker 1 Yeah.

48:14 Speaker 4 The mashke.

48:15 Speaker 1 Ich vis jak... I'm not, I'm not involved here, yeah.

48:21 Speaker 4 Yeah.

48:21 Speaker 1 But, uh, so it was a lot of things then. And then to the Irish, it's a macher, bakulu bakulu. Rebbe drank so much mashke in fact it was lonely. And later there was a whole sicha that two people came to y-yechidut, so in the light of what is yechidut, if any yechida goes around from two yechida. So any yechida asked by the other yechida to have to create tit from a tere. So he asked you have to buy furniture. A tonim. Every yechida to have to create shita, you have to have different furniture. The second one, the edler. I asked him, "But yechida, what's yechida?" Said, "Yeah," and Rebbe was there to mashke. It was, uh, any yechida goes from three yechida. Ich veim kam kvit te-- Vay, vay, davon furniture. That's an edel, not him. Fine. Fine. It was... Then he spoke, then the Rebbe leaned back just with his hand on his head, said, "Any inigula for the Kinesphaera, a deep inigula." If Meishum Malach Ben Malach with a whole inigula, Rebbe spoke about a whole inigula. But in the farbrengen itself, it was a long farbrengen. Because Shavuot finished, it was a long crowd then it was late that time. And I shagg over to the Rebbe later. I thanked Rebbe for such a farbrengen, and from the barbitch it was such a simchas. The farbrengen the whole night and, uh, mashke, uh, yeah. Yeah, it was a, a, a big, a big simchas the Chavrei there. Yeah.

49:46 Speaker 4 And, uh, simchas about chafas you stood in the same place by with the-

49:50 Speaker 1 So me and Yael, and Leibish upper, we all stood under the Rebbe every year, but, uh, until Mamchez. Mamchez didn't want people. So Mamchez talking... I know the first one the Rebbe not feeling good, 'cause we stood mamash under the Rebbe, and the Rebbe was standing against his armrest. I saw the Rebbe's face turning white. I told someone, "The Rebbe, look how white his face." Now if you call Groner, I thought maybe the Rebbe not feeling good. You know, here. And Rebbe's white. I never saw a person so white, like, like the, like the ceiling, so white. And then they saw when they finished, they're about to turn around for coffee, Rebbe was not turning around. Then, not only that, the Rebbe sat, sat, sat down later. Rebbe sat down. So then the Rebbe was sitting there with the tzitzit, and then Toldan walks over right away to the Rebbe. Wanted to give him a little bit of water. He tried to say in Par-Par-Yiddish, you know. And right away, guy broke all the w-windows in the shul behind the Rebbe. You see the air coming in. They told everybody to walk out of shul. But I didn't go out. I was in the corner, learning. And they told the Rebbe, "Rebbe, you gotta sit up." Rebbe said he want to finish cha-chafas, you know. With by the fifth chafa. He made it past the two chafas. By the seventh chafa, the Rebbe went in the middle of the shul, a shag, a sechel. He

51:09 Speaker 1 went one time around and stopped. Rebbe went back to his place, and Rebbe went upstairs. Me, with his hand when he, when he came in. And then he wants the kiddush, he want to give grape juice. Says, "Uh, grape juice macht nishtin kiddush." They told him to... They should bring wine. And what you call it, started the whole thing with doctor, and this doctor, and that doctor. And, uh, from upstairs, the, the nurse there, she told the Rebbe, "What would you do?" And so we would ask you in such a case, "Would you go to a hospital?" He says, "Yes, but here, they can make the hospital here. I don't have to go to a hospital. The... I'm d- By me, it's different than by any other person." So the whole thing, they didn't know what to do. They called Rabbonim, a whole bunch of poskim. Said the Rebbe, he has to go to a hospital. So all the big doctors ran away. They wanna, they wanna be in the place with a person who's gonna go to a hospital, voodoo, voodoo, voodoo. Till the Rebbe fell asleep, and this major heart attack came later, 5:00, 6:00 in the morning. In the middle of the night. A year, a whole bunch of guys went to the ER. Yungaleit went to the ER. They say the three yungaleit were by the ER, and they told the, the rebbe by the ER, they're giving away their life for, for the Rebbe. And I'm not saying as a

52:28 Speaker 1 sechel, these three yungaleit died young later.

52:31 Speaker 5 Mm-hmm.

52:31 Speaker 1 Everyone knows bechasidim, everyone said you give your life, give away. Yeah, everybody gives away. Yeah, but they gave away their whole life.

52:37 Speaker 5 They take a dive.

52:38 Speaker 1 Huh?

52:38 Speaker 5 They died.

52:39 Speaker 1 They died right away, but they died young. Yeah. A year walks to the hosp- to, to the ER.

52:46 Speaker 5 Yeah.

52:47 Speaker 1 Fine. Makof on him, and there was a big nes like it, it was... They actually said to him, "Major heart attack this time." And they said they should take the Rebbe to a, a hospital now. Rebbe doesn't know who, who will be zogen. They can take him to the hospital now. The Rebbe's son was there, that she should say we should take him to hospital. Rebbe's son she never did anything in her life that Rebbe does not want, that Rebbe does not want. Then she walked over to Rabbi Kinski, "Rabbi Kinski, you don't have a doctor for my husband?" Sink into it also. Then you have to... My sister-in-law in Chicago, we would... You know, there was a young guy, a doctor, Doctor, Doctor Weiss, you know. She called up his schwager. His schwager didn't answer the phone right away. We saw it's calling a lot of times. She picked up the phone and said what happened here. "And you know, you have a yeshuv daughter, the guy, Doctor, Doctor Weiss. So call him up. He should come right away to the Rebbe." She said he called him and didn't answer till he answered. He didn't have money in his house even to come here. He had to wait till the bank opens up to buy... To have money to buy, buy a ticket. And with him, he came. When he came, and... But we'll start at the Rebbe from Toldot, Rabbi Kinski. "Rabbi Kinski, nobody... You don't have a doctor for my husband?" Again,

54:05 Speaker 1 didn't understand.

54:06 Speaker 5 Yeah.

54:08 Speaker 1 Nobody gives a hagruach to bring somebody, you know, that will do what the Rebbe wants and be a, and a big doctor, you know. So with him, this Dr. Weiss started, started, ooh, the, the home, and with Rebbe always... Rabbi Noski always used to go in to get maskir. Joseph from Ostia, and Rebbe gave a maskir. They told Grona. Rebbe called, "Here's Dr. Weiss, son." From where did the blood come out when you give a needle? Is it from the vacuum it's in the hand or from the stroke from the needle? So Rebbe says he thinks it's from the vacuum.

54:45 Speaker 5 Mm-hmm.

54:46 Speaker 1 And Weiss says he also thinks that way. They said a year should be ma'aphar bechasidim between yongen. If it's from the vacuum or from the stroke. And year's ma'aphar, they didn't sing some shiurim gilt, they didn't sing some leining gilt in the, in the home, or ich es. And then they told Rebbe we should sing upstairs. Rebbe should able to rest. Rebbe says he doesn't hear the dancing. The dancing makes him healthier. With nes vos, then two, three hours later, by, by davening, Rebbe was operating in pajamas, and by Yizkor, he held on to, to, to Matthew sitting down on the bed. By Bais Yisroel he got up, I think. And there was a minyan in the... He said, "Galel ma tachsin." Rebbe said, "Matthew." It mamish niste remind, niste they went to ER, could be ER. There was something miraculous, a nes m'emelech hachesed that happened in the next two hours, from 5:00 to 8:00. The doctor said 5:00 clock, nothing. And Rebbe said especially he doesn't go to a hospital. If something has to happen, he wants it to happen here.

55:52 Speaker 5 Did Rebbe say that?

55:53 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

55:58 Speaker 5 Hmm. So let me go backwards. Um, when the... When we were a kid

56:06 Speaker 6 I think Becha- Becha-

56:07 Speaker 1 Oh, sorry, sorry. I'm not to say the words. After bar mitzvah, you went to Rebbe yechidas.

56:13 Speaker 6 Yeah.

56:14 Speaker 1 From thir-thirteen, fourteen, every yechidas. When you're young, Rebbe didn't want you to go to yechidas before bar mitzvah. So when you were young, for Shabbos Melaveh Malka before, before you give Melaveh Malka, you used to walk over to the Rebbe etz ha'ma'amad with a drop of wine.

56:31 Speaker 6 All the kids would do this?

56:32 Speaker 1 How many, how many kids? Eight kids, nine kids.

56:34 Speaker 6 Eight kids in the whole Lubavitch.

56:36 Speaker 1 We should go dance by the Rebbe's room etz habrayim, simcha.

56:40 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

56:41 Speaker 1 Simcha. We ran out. We stood by.

56:44 Speaker 6 You stood-

56:44 Speaker 1 How many kids? There were six, seven kids. Once there was a big rain, there was four kids.

56:48 Speaker 6 Who were the kids?

56:49 Speaker 1 Me, Son of Levittton, my friend Pekarsky, his sister, my son, the Weinberger. There was no more kids. The Kaplans came later from Shanghai, from England, from Manchester. But in Tzetztbor, Tzarim, there was no kids. And what you call it, we used to go over to the Rebbe. So wintertime, you have to go to the Rebbe upstairs, because Rebbe habrayim upstairs wintertime.

57:13 Speaker 6 In the zar.

57:14 Speaker 1 Yeah. Summer time is in the shalash. It was very cold upstairs, you couldn't fall brain. So how do you go over to the Rebbe upstairs? You have to go from the cheder sheini, open up the door. So when you open the door, you, you were downstairs on the floor, and the Rebbe was mamash.

57:32 Speaker 6 Right there.

57:34 Speaker 1 And behind the Rebbe were three Yidden, Rav Shmuel, Jacob. Uh, so I used to go-- I was happy when it was upstairs. No, upstairs, up, uh, downstairs, because downstairs you went over the side, you know, to Rebbe. But upstairs you have to speak louder. You were downstairs, and the Rebbe was higher up, you know? And then my-

57:54 Speaker 6 See, in the shalash you'd walk on top-

57:57 Speaker 1 On top, yeah

57:57 Speaker 6 ... and then go over to the Rebbe. Here, you're down.

57:59 Speaker 1 Down, you have to.

58:00 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

58:01 Speaker 1 And I couldn't talk then to man.

58:03 Speaker 6 You couldn't talk then?

58:04 Speaker 1 I couldn't talk, mamash. So the Rebbe look at me, "No."

58:08 Speaker 6 He's saying, "Mit sad your-"

58:09 Speaker 1 Yeah.

58:10 Speaker 6 The way, the way you speak.

58:12 Speaker 1 If I said, "Mm, huh," I couldn't talk. So Shmuel told, knew me, so he told the Rebbe who I am. And he said me, "Er vet khazn a chidush in zover a boro."

58:22 Speaker 6 The Rebbe said what? Er-

58:23 Speaker 1 "Er vet khazn a chidush in zover a boro."

58:26 Speaker 6 Er vet?

58:26 Speaker 1 Yeah. Huh?

58:27 Speaker 6 Er vet?

58:28 Speaker 1 Yeah.

58:28 Speaker 6 Er vet khazn a chidush-

58:29 Speaker 1 Khazn a chidush in zover a boro.

58:31 Speaker 6 That your sicha should have a clear...

58:32 Speaker 1 Yeah. But then I couldn't even talk on, on my, my farbrengen with the Rebbe. I have to go from downstairs, scream loud. Fine.

58:42 Speaker 6 So that was the bracha that you got.

58:43 Speaker 1 Yeah. Er vet khazn a chidush in zover a boro, yeah.

58:47 Speaker 6 So that's what you're doing.

58:48 Speaker 1 Huh?

58:49 Speaker 6 That's what you're doing the last, uh-

58:50 Speaker 1 I'm trying to, yeah

58:51 Speaker 6 ... the last, what, fifty years?

58:52 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

58:53 Speaker 6 Sixty years.

58:54 Speaker 1 Why?

58:55 Speaker 6 How long are you teaching chidush?

58:56 Speaker 1 I'm teaching from Tosfot Bar Natan.

58:59 Speaker 6 Okay.

59:00 Speaker 1 Bar Natan, which we-- I, I, I had a shiur from the War, I had a shiur in this, because Yair never came to Seventy Seventy to learn. He came ten years later, after I was in yeshiva, he came to learn. I gave away my, my shiurim in that shul.

59:14 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

59:15 Speaker 1 Now I just say, "Tanya," that's what I say something else. But the-- today there's a lot of Bochum in this place to everybody at home, to bring in Kaplan, to bring in everybody.

59:24 Speaker 6 Right.

59:25 Speaker 1 More people as possible should, should bring in, the young should go, yeah.

59:28 Speaker 6 But you, but you were in yechidas with your family.

59:31 Speaker 1 Huh?

59:31 Speaker 6 I'm assuming you were in yechidas with your family when you were a kid.

59:34 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

59:35 Speaker 6 When was that? Like, when were you in yechidas with your family?

59:38 Speaker 1 Uh, beginning in the all the days, from eight o' clock, gimel. And maybe I was every year, my twelve, I was a Bochum from chapala for days.

59:47 Speaker 6 So your first yechidas was your bar mitzvah.

59:49 Speaker 1 Yeah. And then went chapala for days every year I went to yechidas, you know.

59:53 Speaker 6 So can you tell me about yechidas?

59:56 Speaker 1 The Rebbe told us these tefilin meshulim in barter.

59:59 Speaker 6 What?

59:59 Speaker 1 And then we keep a certain age or so, they're not like a little tefilin boy, huh, and this. Uh, we're-

1:00:04 Speaker 6 What kapitel did you learn?

1:00:07 Speaker 1 I was tazayent, I thought.

1:00:07 Speaker 6 Why tazayent?

1:00:08 Speaker 1 Fine. I don't know. I couldn't take a tefilin on time even too much. But I never asked the Rebbe what-- Later it became, but people have to ask the Rebbe a lot. "Rebbe, what the Rebbe this in my brit," then that's it. Nobody want to take up time from, from the Rebbe. Even Rabbi Menachem Cohen said, "Why Bochum so long yechidas? He just writes down his brit and a bracha." I want to write to the Rebbe about yeshiva, about something, I write him in a sefer later. I'm not gonna take up his time. I saw all the older chassidim, Rabbi Ushpoin. By then the Rebbe's time was special. They just want, they went in for yud beis, they ask for bracha. They have something to write about the askanus, about this. They wrote later in a sefer, not in yechidas, you know. The Bochum, everybody was looking what to, what to write, what to this. Now the Bochum, uh, the, um, called it... We were close with Yair before, but then Yair started in a situation. He sat chattering, as you used to chatter, and it wasn't going. And Chof Hey started a little bit, and Chof Bet, and Chad Hakof called in-

1:01:17 Speaker 6 Sorry, I wanna, I wanna get to the chazara soon. But in yechidas, the Rebbe never... In yechidas, the Rebbe, the Rebbe never-- There was no herois in yechidas you ever got? You know, we're always looking, myself included, for ways to stay and be connected to the Rebbe, and not just any way, but something tangible. The way to do it, especially around Chof Shevat, is Keren Hachamesh. A little bit of the background. Keren Hachamesh, which is the Rosh Yeshivas, Harbonis Chaim Moshe, is a fund that was opened by the Rebbe immediately after the passing of the Rebbe Tzaddik on Chof Shevat five, seven, during the shiva. In fact, it's the only corporation that the Rebbe himself opened, and the idea is really for communal needs that relate to women Women's education, women that are struggling financially, and the general welfare of women and girls. And here's the interesting part. The Rebbe gave instructions how, how to give. The Rebbe said to give in increments of four hundred and seventy, which is the gematria of the Rebbetzin's name. Whether it's four dollars and seventy cents, forty-seven dollars, four hundred and seventy, or four thousand and seven hundred. Giving in these increments is how the Rebbe directed us to support this fund and honor the Rebbetzin. This past year, Keren Hachamash gave out over one million dollars to Hachnasas Kallah, to women and girls programs, and to mikva'os. To me, when we do this, we're not just donating. We're fulfilling a specific request the Rebbe made. We are

1:02:54 Speaker 6 connecting ourselves to the Rebbe and the Rebbetzin. I will be donating to Keren Hachamash this Chaf B'Shevat, and you can too at kerenhachamash.org. That's K-E-R-E-N-H-A-C-H-O-M-E-S-H.org.

1:03:13 Speaker 1 I had Bochur every day. I should think Chassidus, I should think Chassidus before, before I go to sleep. And, and this, uh, and this is, uh, Cheit Benepes is only an hour of Cheit Benepes. But how can a Bochur go to sleep at night without thinking how the day went through? How-- become the Chassidus for a Bochur without sleeping, he didn't think how the day went through. Uh, so you have to have every day. But now, Cheit Benepes is still Yona'ai, I wish Cheit is ill. But upon then by thinking Chassidus or this for, mmh, for davening. So this is the whole thing. When the Rebbe said, "When the, when the Bochur know he has to start to make Chassidus for davening," Rebbe always leave a Bochur till the end of Chassidus and Nigunim Chassidus. And all of a sudden, Rebbe said, "Unen a base of Tefillah." And then when I heard the first time, probably about six to fifteen, sixteen years old, then I found to, to, to ask now about Chassidus.

1:04:14 Speaker 6 So that's when you know you're ready to-

1:04:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, fine. That we had some- A bissele, yeah, yeah. When you tell me Unen a base of Tefillah in Bochur, yeah.

1:04:28 Speaker 6 Uh, um, you mentioned before, uh, Chanukah geld.

1:04:31 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:04:32 Speaker 6 At the Rebbe's at his staff.

1:04:33 Speaker 1 Fine, so staff. So I got Bar Mitzvah of Shechath.

1:04:36 Speaker 6 What?

1:04:36 Speaker 1 I got Bar Mitzvah of Shechath.

1:04:39 Speaker 6 Bar Mitzvah of Shechath.

1:04:40 Speaker 1 Of a Shevat. And Chanukah was the last time he gave the Chanukah in Kislev. So we didn't have to go. Not we didn't go. Our-

1:04:47 Speaker 6 What was that?

1:04:48 Speaker 1 Our kids did not go.

1:04:49 Speaker 6 You, you Bar Mitzvah in Teshri.

1:04:50 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:04:50 Speaker 6 Okay, so what's, what's the question?

1:04:52 Speaker 1 Yeah. And but Chanukah geld was at, when we started in Chassidus. We started in Mottain Chassidus after Bar Mitzvah.

1:04:59 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

1:04:59 Speaker 1 So this Chaf Shechath, the Chanukah was before my Bar Mitzvah. Me, Shalom, the Rebbe, and um, another few, he was in Teves or in Shevat.

1:05:07 Speaker 6 'Cause Chanukah geld is only for those that are in Chassidus.

1:05:09 Speaker 1 In Bar Mitzvah Chassidus, yeah.

1:05:10 Speaker 6 Mm-hmm.

1:05:10 Speaker 1 So we didn't go.

1:05:11 Speaker 6 So you didn't go.

1:05:12 Speaker 1 So that was a way that we could have went, 'cause we went on Bar Mitzvah in my memory.

1:05:16 Speaker 6 Uh-huh.

1:05:17 Speaker 1 But you ask your father, "Why didn't you guys go?" Fine. But we didn't push myself to go, because that was very marked with only these people that are not Chassidus. And it was only Yisroel Rifle that went to the Abba, Chanukah geld. So Jacob said, "The kun to success this Yisroel Rifle." Rebbe put hand over Rebbe Yage's hand, "The kun to pad the niglah."

1:05:41 Speaker 6 Yeah.

1:05:42 Speaker 1 Yeah. I think certain people that were here without Chassidus from the yeshiva, Rebbe told them, "Your daughters and that's just all," you know. It's... I don't know. Yeah.

1:05:54 Speaker 6 By the way, it's time.

1:05:55 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:05:56 Speaker 6 Uh, it's time a random question. Nothing to do, but you mentioned that you didn't learn Chassidus.

1:06:00 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:06:01 Speaker 6 Why is it that kids don't learn any Chassidus?

1:06:04 Speaker 1 None.

1:06:05 Speaker 6 How come children don't learn any Chassidus?

1:06:06 Speaker 1 Now?

1:06:07 Speaker 6 Yeah, something I've been, I always wondered.

1:06:09 Speaker 1 I'm also wondering why I ask kids over Bar Mitzvah, "Do you learn Tanya, not yet? When you start next year? When next year?" Always-

1:06:16 Speaker 6 I'm saying even younger. I mean, you learn Chassidus with, uh, with Frair Yid Nosso, right? They don't know anything. So wh- why, how come a child doesn't know Chassidus?

1:06:23 Speaker 1 I don't know. I felt very surprised. And I gave once a shiur called the Yeshivas. I said one of the big chassdenus now is among you have learned with us, we were fifteen, fourteen, sixteen. Today, for the young kid to give up a, a guy that has a job in niglah and need another hour for salary to come to learn Tanya. So the guy, he doesn't prepare good, the guy stop coming. Now it became better, but years ago, kids didn't learn, and so at eighteen, nineteen, they were not yeshiva, because they didn't have mashpiyim for their age. So I once spoke about you should have the best people for the younger bochurim. Older bochurim, have it or get or get. The biggest mashpiyim has to be for fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. This is the most critical age to give a bochur a geshmak of Chassidus, and this has, had to be. Whenever I spoke, they didn't take it me to, uh, serious. Now it became better, I hear, from yeshivas. They have better people for bochurim.

1:07:24 Speaker 6 That's what it was in your times, the Rebbe. Yale was your mashpia when you were fourteen, fifteen.

1:07:28 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. And Yale is excellent for young bochurim. He more excellent than for older bochurim.

1:07:32 Speaker 6 Why?

1:07:32 Speaker 1 Because he had a certain way how to prepare with young bochurim.

1:07:36 Speaker 6 So maybe, maybe, maybe tell me about the, the Yale.

1:07:38 Speaker 1 Well, well, I remember when we were, we were young kids, fourteen years old, that's why we called the windows and the doors. He has to speak a serious thing today. If thirteen young kids, he send out of the room even for the older bochurim. Because for start, when we go around the table, he spoke to us about Kesslon Mitah, about Tachna Sidah, and confession of bochurim. It was a very serious... And what he used to do is he had a certain laugh. When he had rain, he stick his hand around and go, "Hey," and, and we cover him. If you come early, you just kiss him, which was a hot p- places by his- Far, far breng be closer to him. Because the guys were closer and he used to take them around, and he show a far, a far breng. It was, it was excellent for kids fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. He, he's the best. The way he, we had a nimma and the way he told stories, and he, he ma-- He was never in 770 those years.

1:08:37 Speaker 6 He was all Beth Rivkah.

1:08:38 Speaker 1 Only in the Yong Abochum. Maybe he went to upstream park with some time because we send up bochum to upstream park way after we finished in Beth Rivkah. But he's very devoted to us. And Rabbi told to Yale, he's one of his classes coming into him, that this is a, a k-a kidta with, a kidta with good heads. He went back with the Sacha with the, um, how, um, uh, um, um-

1:09:03 Speaker 6 Your dad was holding?

1:09:04 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:09:04 Speaker 6 At your class.

1:09:05 Speaker 1 Because it's the first normal class. Till us there was one guy from here, one guy from there. It wasn't the normal fifteen, twenty bochum. After the war, there was a guy that went Paris or from Sunday, they learned. It was not, uh... It was the first whole bunch of kids together, normal kids, well, bochum with good heads. Like Makat from Novashon. There was Shapiro came from Cleveland, then Topsha Hoff, he became Benitza Hoff. Her father, he came to, to Beth Rivkah, and gosh, her sister was on the diet. It was a whole kidta from diet. We young, and, and a young like her sister. There was a kidta with a whole bunch of guys with good heads. So, so Yale was very devoted to us, and we were t-to him very devoted. He arranged us for us. He far, far bracht-- He farbrachte it for us. His sister was the famous farbrengen. He used to farbreng with us the whole night till the morning. Yeah, far a mashgia, yeah. Yeah.

1:10:06 Speaker 6 What did he farbrengen about?

1:10:07 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:10:07 Speaker 6 What did he farbrengen about?

1:10:08 Speaker 1 About everything. About our Rebbe, about Chasidis. How we, um... When, when to his sister, he said it's Rosh Hashana Chasidis. He said it to his Rosh Hashana, and he sang about Nateh. He, he sang Mina Neitza and around the bochum. He's crying. Why did I cry Mina Neitza? And for Yom HaShova Zos went around the table. You stay on Eastern Park in the cooks of the Daf Yomi. He went around the table. Every kid and told him. What's my Rebbe? Mina Neitza. He went, he went-- He sang the whole Mina Neitza. And he said, "I mean, a dugme." It wasn't only that, but he farbrengen for... You see, even was, was Chaya Tovshin Chabad. We would far-far-farbrengen Beth Rivkah. Then ten to eight, we had to tell them of from Sunday that we're gonna farbreng eight o'clock. We just sat down to far-farbrengen with Olga, to run to 770. Yale, Essel, which way? Because we were young kids then. Ten minutes, we could make it fast from Beth Rivkah to 770. We came 770 exactly eight o'clock. It was empty, 770. Because a wedding, Leba married that night in Cleveland, and all the, all the bochum 770 went to Cleveland there. And there wasn't a lot of bochum in 770 either now. Uh, Chabad. There was a hundred bochum, ninety bochum altogether. Eighty were. So we had a baby place next to Yale. The Belozman and they started to sing the Dreifalom. Then the Rebbe said to raise Chaya that on top of him, that

1:11:47 Speaker 1 Chabad Teves gonna be a hundred and fifty years from the Alter Rebbe's talks. And Rebbe said that he should, he should share the Tanya to everybody. Bochum separately in the right separately, and Alter Rebbe's book of knowledge should be given out right after the farbrengen to bochum separately and in the right separately. Of course, not Hakan. He started a new thing, Hakan. We all think what's gonna be is not Hakan. It was a very special, it was a very special thing we were waiting the whole time. The pill Chabad Teves then was Nitzai Shabbos. Shabbos by day was Gimmel Tes, it was Shabbos in bochum. That night was Chabad Teves. The Rebbe farbrengen by day was Shabbos in bochum. It was very geschmacke farbrengen, Nitzai. Gray and so forth. Very geschmacke farbrengen. And that is that. We were very much let down. This is the whole Chabad Teves we're waiting half a year from Chaya. We were standing and waiting for Maariv. Before Maariv, there was the idea the Rebbe was gonna farbrengen tonight around in the Eretz Chamakten, means before ten-thirty, in the Eretz Chamakten. Rebbe came down to farbrengen then twenty five, eight to ten. Because he said the talk is not Rebbe with Nitzai Shabbos, like it's Chabad, and a little bit before ten-thirty, Eretz Chamakten. Rebbe came down to farbrengen then. Rebbe was white like the ghost. I wanna say like the story of Abraham, Avraham Yitzchak, Rebbe was white. He was not that sick white, but he was very white,

1:13:23 Speaker 1 very pale. And it was a mamish a tear that we never saw how serious the Rebbe was, because this mamish the time of the talk is about Rebbe. Rebbe said then it's known the famous letter, the previous Rebbe is a doctor, not a Chabad. So, so the, so the Rebbe is, uh, gives a broche for his Chasidim, for the wife and the children, so forth and so forth. Can I get farbrengen and you learn his tale? It's like giving a panther to the Bala Yeshiva. Like you're giving now a panther Alter Rebbe. Rebbe's saying it so seriously. When Shamainen came that day with me, she said, "My aim isn't tell you, we should leave a day with Kirby." We thank all the ten L'Gunnim of the Alter Rebbe. A very serious, serious far-farbrengen. Rebbe didn't budge. Nick was him. He was white. After the farbrengen, Bel Zitch came running over to Yale. "You saw the Alter Rebbe white farbrengen?" He said, "I don't see such a thing." "Yes, once," he told Yale, "Alter Rebbe was here white farbrengen, see him." I'll call upon him. Fine. Sunday night, we were farbrengen with Yale in Beth Rivkah. But we stopped to finish early, eleven thirty. So we were going home from Beth Rivkah. Half the class went home. Me, Shalom, the Rebbe's neighbor, Shapiro said, "Let's go into 770, what's going on?" The Vaskanov, Machanichas, you go-- You don't, you don't go home straight. There's no story. You go home straight to 770. You walk in 770,

1:15:03 Speaker 1 the bochum are running around nuts. They've announced it. "What's going on?" "The Rebbe is gonna farbrengen in two minutes." We went upstairs. It was empty. Eleven thirty, a quarter to twelve at night. Hasag had a dinner at the Yeshiva that day. Uh, and the rabbi said he should be meeting him when Hasag comes back. So there was a big fabrengen with Alfuncha. Uh, Ashira Maltom Psychono, Ashira Mantanya. And there was dancing, and there was singing, what was going on. Then the rabbi said, "Just like I'm, I'm assigned with Bal Santo." He said everybody should give two hundred dollars. But the Bochum that learns should give two hundred dollars, only people that work should give two hundred dollars. And now it could be in the time of Chen, everybody should give a hundred and fifty dollars. A Bochum, a human, anybody should give a hundred and fifty dollars. And school touch him, a half he said, Chabad Shifa that they're giving Mashke, the one that gave away. The one that didn't give any should push and bring up palace from Amashkin in, in America. Some say the talation was too laying up time afterwards, yeah. But half on him, Harry said everybody should give right away a hundred and fifty dollars. Kunum vekunum. Now people buy fabrengen on globe, we see them on globe.

1:16:18 Speaker 7 Bochum also?

1:16:19 Speaker 1 Yeah. Then with the waiter, he said, there was Kunum, among the Bos-- he said to Bal Santo, "Never let money left over in his pocket." Because money out of your pocket is for today. Tomorrow is another day. And he said everybody had, uh, rabbi should give a manila envelope. Rabbi empty out all his pockets with capacity, with stands. Said he should give a, a rabbi manila envelope all over, everybody should empty out their pockets. He said today it's easy. Among you empty the pocket, you have no money. Today people have the bank, and they have, uh, like insurance, this insurance, that insurance, that. They still have money.

1:17:00 Speaker 7 Right.

1:17:01 Speaker 1 But so everybody should empty out their pockets. They give an envelope, and then next Mizisi Bakowski just borrowed three hundred dollars to pay his favors. Everybody gave away emp- everybody emptied out their pocket. So when the rabbi had a lot of money, they came from a dinner, he want to pay it to pay favors to people, nobody want to take from him. Everything you have, you have to empty out. It was not a joke him. And then the rabbi said, rabbi start singing, "Eh, exti, you do in America." So rabbi said to amp off a, a mashode. Somebody is thinking not that this is a exti do in America. It shouldn't be a n- a nar. I heard a story later on up it's punk through. Know that the guy that works on this Rivka, I can't remember if it's Northern Parkway. What's his name again? His father used to live in Florida. What's his name? Uh, he works in the, in the money department there.

1:17:53 Speaker 7 Is it Rivka?

1:17:54 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:17:56 Speaker 7 Yeah.

1:17:56 Speaker 1 I caught up on him. So he went tell the rabbi, he said he had a whole story when years before he had an accident, and he got killed by a child of his. Then another one dying, and the rabbi there was, did a big net. He got saved. It was a whole... He came to the rabbi for a chason. But normally he would not go to the rabbi for a chason. And he, he, he worked in jewelry. He owed Heshashipia thirty thousand dollars for jewelry. He punk came that night, Shabbos Sunday, they met there. He came up with the thirty thousand dollars. He was there, and the rabbi's fabrengen in the middle of the night. Then he heard what's going on here. He heard the rabbi said he should empty out their pocket. He knows that Heshashipia thirty thousand dollars want to see what he's gonna do.

1:18:36 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:18:37 Speaker 1 So Heshashipia is putting his hand on his pocket, and, uh, going back and forth. He was watching. He wanted to see what a chason did. He was not a chason there. They say this what the rabbi could be meant. He started singing the whole song, "Eh, exti, you do in America." It shouldn't be a do in America. You should do what you have to do. They said he gave the whole money. They said put, put into a manila envelope.

1:18:59 Speaker 7 He should put thirty thousand dollars.

1:19:00 Speaker 1 Yeah. It wasn't his money. The money he has to pay for jewelry. It's not money. It's his profit. Right. And, and they're saying there was a special fab, fab, fab, fabrengen there. The Shabbos yes was, was a Sheidish Shabbat. Like today is Sheidish. Rabbi fabred that Shabbos. And it, and Zanana was told there, "To chavdalah Zanana," he said in the beginning.

1:19:24 Speaker 7 Zanana.

1:19:24 Speaker 1 Huh? Shemu Zanana. So he said, "Actually, it's your need him." And the rabbi spoke a sikha, short sikha. And those day, the rabbi didn't fabrengen Sheidish even Shabbos. Said the whole fabrengen is because it's chavdalah teves. And we spoke, so we're giving a pidion have to Altar Ebbie. So he was sure the first nigun they'll start singing by the fabrengen is Altar Ebbie's own nigun. So people, their minds are starting to run, and the rabbi spoke very sharp. So they're singing this nigun now. Came to Chata Goni. They're giving a pan to Altar Ebbie's, Altar Ebbie's thing now. We should have started the fabrengen with Altar Ebbie's nigun. And then you need the p- the pushke in the hallway be- before you're going upstairs. That was called the Altar Ebbie, uh, uh, Ken, Kenesh Nezalman. This was a pushke. The rabbi put a lot of money there. It's to print the Altar Ebbie's, uh, Svarim, Siddim, anything. So this was the, the famous pushke. The people in the whole world put their money in that pushke. That was, that was the special pushke. And rabbi spoke about it many times. Rabbi didn't go that year Lag B'Omer to a parade, even though it was Sunday. 'Cause rabbi said, "Actually, there's no money, and there's no this." Rabbi said, "I'm not going out. It's not the kind for everyone to be farkochen in Yonen, comes Lag B'Omer." So rabbi said he's not gonna come out. He didn't come out that year with the whole storm. It's

1:20:48 Speaker 1 not the kind. It was 150 years. Because rabbi said, "Getting gas, I don't see the way the streets are flooded with Altar Ebbie's memoriam, Altar Ebbie's teyes, Altar Ebbie..." Rabbi was upset how the people took the seriousness of 150 years, yeah This was a special, a special Nofach Han. There was a lot of inyanim in that, yeah. Well

1:21:17 Speaker 7 Um, so I think in those years you were by the, by the suddas upstairs.

1:21:25 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:21:25 Speaker 7 You were by the suddas upstairs.

1:21:26 Speaker 1 I always went upstairs. Even though it stopped after Chabais, then the Rebbe spoke a shiur.

1:21:31 Speaker 7 What, what, what, what are you talking about before the fabregen?

1:21:34 Speaker 1 No, by the suddas upstairs. Huh?

1:21:36 Speaker 7 What stopped?

1:21:37 Speaker 1 The suddas that way. The Chabais, whoever wants could come upstairs to the suddas.

1:21:43 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:21:44 Speaker 1 And I always ran to the suddas as a young kid. Bar mitzvah, fourteen, I liked to be there, hear what the Rebbe says. It was a very small crowd. Nobody came out to learn. But just the Pokorskys from the Holy Holocaust was always there. They used to tear papers from before. Every... When Rebbe was written down how many spoons he took from the fish or he took from the soup, and he threw it. They used to put in a piece of paper for every-

1:22:09 Speaker 7 To remember

1:22:09 Speaker 1 ... and they would show the Rebbe, "Hy" The Rebbe said it's hard to eat. The cooks were upon him. He can't give a yawn. He can't give a move. So every meal somebody went and they go and actually he did everything so he could come to the suddas moshech this, sit and learn there. So I started going then. These were called... Only Rabbi Duchman went, Rabbi Holick went, you know. They make sure the Rebbe-

1:22:33 Speaker 7 Besides, besides the seder.

1:22:34 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:22:34 Speaker 7 The studen people still went.

1:22:35 Speaker 1 But they came there. He came to the dorm. Rebbe went in the kitchen. They were working. He said that we will shimur him on this to tell him he could go up. Now, Chabais, even though they stopped the whole inyan, then they brought tables and chairs for next year. Called the Chabadim they want people to come, and they like normally to come. But guys got in. They told the Rebbe the kvutzeh that's going back should come. This should come, that should come. I used to go... I, I was good to from the gan, but even before he came, my brother-in-law, so he let me in. It was a, it was every time there was a whole, it was a whole situation.

1:23:18 Speaker 7 So-

1:23:18 Speaker 1 But a, a very interesting thing, all the kvutzeh used to come for before Pesach and Cheshvan, three months, six months, even came a year from Pesach to Pesach. But then all of a sudden the people ask the Rebbe, "Isn't it better to come to Tishrei? There could be two Tishreis." And said, "Two Nissans are more than two Tishrei."

1:23:40 Speaker 7 Two Nissans are more than two Tishrei.

1:23:41 Speaker 1 Yeah. He didn't say why.

1:23:42 Speaker 7 You're saying because the kvutzeh that le- that stays-

1:23:45 Speaker 1 They can't be for Pesach and come the next year to Pesach, or come to Tishrei and stay till the Tishrei next year. That is why two Nissans are more than two Tishrei.

1:23:53 Speaker 7 Why?

1:23:54 Speaker 1 So we didn't know why, but it could be she has Nissans there, or it could be because of seder. I don't know. Could be the other Nissan to be here. But Chabad upon him, Rebbe had the whole business, so wrote it's better for them two, two years later to come, and the kit is to change. It changes all time.

1:24:12 Speaker 7 Right.

1:24:12 Speaker 1 And therefore the yeshiva, and so that's what yeshiva is doing this.

1:24:16 Speaker 7 So they, they could change it.

1:24:17 Speaker 1 It's like the story when the Rebbe used to bring in for Shabbos here to 770. So having for Shabbos, Nissan places, Nissan now later, five hours later. So Sunday there was no-

1:24:31 Speaker 7 See

1:24:31 Speaker 1 ... so he looked to Rebbe, "It started this dorm," Rebbe brings for Shabbos. He said, "Start the dorm," Rabbi started bringing in Shabbos that day, yeah.

1:24:38 Speaker 7 That's why the Rebbe stopped from the Shabbos from there.

1:24:39 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:24:40 Speaker 7 There was a local yeshivas-

1:24:41 Speaker 1 The Rebbe wanted to bring it for Shabbos where the whole world could hear.

1:24:44 Speaker 7 Right.

1:24:45 Speaker 1 Okay.

1:24:46 Speaker 7 It was a local yeshivas or-

1:24:47 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:24:47 Speaker 7 It was local yeshivas that wrote it?

1:24:49 Speaker 1 No, no. Local yeshivas for the Chabad, no.

1:24:51 Speaker 7 Meraton. So back to the suddas, you remember things that the Rebbe spoke then?

1:24:57 Speaker 1 Sure, I remember.

1:24:57 Speaker 7 So the hag would ask all the questions on how it would work.

1:25:00 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Melach Tzibu would tell the hag what to ask.

1:25:02 Speaker 7 Melach Tzibu.

1:25:03 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:25:03 Speaker 7 He was a bachur.

1:25:04 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:25:05 Speaker 7 And he would tell the hag what to ask.

1:25:06 Speaker 1 He got married in Kfar Chabad, yeah. He came in the kvutzeh Chabais, and maybe he went back and came again back. Chabad with me. And once he asked, asked in Chabad to ask a question about the shpitzin that Rebbe gave a heilik, the bachur, Reuven, I just spoke about it last year. He wouldn't hear that Chabad yom, yeah. But Chabad upon him, he used to always... The hag, he said, "Well, ask him." Reuven Matzliv said, "Well, you want to know what to ask," yeah.

1:25:35 Speaker 7 So the hag wanted it.

1:25:36 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So to learn, to learn-

1:25:39 Speaker 7 But there's a lot of inyanim of there like-

1:25:41 Speaker 1 Yeah

1:25:41 Speaker 7 ... some, some Machshavah.

1:25:43 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Week of Pesach time, when the Rebbe said the Hagadah for Motzei Benching, and Nishmas and all of like piz would be cried and the seriousness. It's mamash Nishmat kol chai tivorehe and crying. It was very serious, devastating, serious, uh, crying face. He said the Hagadah like there was one for Polish Yid that was there, but the Hagadah Pesach to him because somebody was sick, he was here. Said, "Such a Hagadah he never heard." And every time he sits by the seder where he is, he imagines how the Rebbe said the seder, the Hagadah. It's, it's, uh... And Rebbe, he put Kos Shel Yom back to the bottle. It was a whole way in the Kos Elabol. Took five minutes, no, to answer the Rebbe there. It was a whole seder in this, you know. It was a special to be by the seder. Told me he was davened, that maybe hope for brain coming down, but he's doing-

1:26:51 Speaker 7 Was he there?

1:26:51 Speaker 1 ... I'm not talking. I wasn't there. Okay. But then he spoke. Uh, he spoke a lot of inyanim, no, why.

1:27:01 Speaker 7 I think I remember-

1:27:02 Speaker 1 I can tell you what. The Chinman Yair.

1:27:04 Speaker 7 Etzin.

1:27:05 Speaker 1 Huh? Rebbe then gave a tikun to a few-

1:27:07 Speaker 7 That's Chinman Yair that you're talking about

1:27:08 Speaker 1 ... yeah, a tikun to a few bachurim They broke the, in high school there, they broke the, the kids where they had the, the test of the every year, the government test, I call it the-

1:27:21 Speaker 7 SATs.

1:27:22 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:27:22 Speaker 7 SATs?

1:27:24 Speaker 1 Whatever it is. 'Cause you want the guy should finish high school, he's able to learn with the kids.

1:27:28 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:27:28 Speaker 1 So our guy, they, they called the guys and came to the rabbi the whole story, and rabbi gave him a ticket on the Chaim, you know. Rabbi spoke to them, the guy that gave a ticket on Chaim, he went Pesach also to Chaim, yeah.

1:27:42 Speaker 7 Now what, the, the bachag broke it 'cause they-

1:27:45 Speaker 1 The bachag, they wanted to have the enters, the enters on the regions, it was called the regions.

1:27:49 Speaker 7 Regions, regions, yeah.

1:27:50 Speaker 1 They said enter the region, they should be able to f- to finish, they should be able to learn with the kids all day.

1:27:56 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:27:56 Speaker 1 Uh, then, then he spoke to the rabbi to give a name into the three-field, the child or, or the name what they... Or his name, um, he's named it, uh, mean, the rabbi's name, so he said like these are the two people in Shiva names after wherever it has... That's my nephew, Ich, my dad. He spoke to everybody. And then there's a few bachag that had a pipe of Nantlick. He told him to dance with Nantlick. And he spoke to Miles of Yale. Yale did not go to Pontavitch when the Shiva closed down in Tel Aviv. Everybody went, not from Garari. Everybody left them 'cause it was like home then. Wow. There was more people that went. He spoke to Miles of Yale, he didn't go, yeah. Yale was for the canton, you know, uh, had a Chiddishe. Yeah, so there were many, many, many of these things. Rabbi Salbagaden, there were many stories. Then there was a, a story. It was also came out about Snappish. Uh, no, Waldner wanted to hear the, the Rashi before she able to look over. But the rebbe many times when he came, he was sitting by the door whenever he came home, and if there was a problem, he told them which Rashi it was in. If he wasn't there, he told the Shomi Sol, "Call the rebbe." So Shomi Sol called the rebbe, he said, "Go to the rebbe in Duchman." Rabbi came down ten o'clock to davening, and Duchman was going on a bench, on

1:29:23 Speaker 1 table. It looks, uh, it looks, "So Mashmoe, is there anything going to prepare in? The Rashi be this and this." Then there was a Chiddishe rebbe. He wanted to give me a p'brangen, on the Shabbat there was not supposed to be a p'brangen. So he sent a ten-minute zikkr rebbe, Silverstein, to go to the rebbe in Duchman, the rebbe came to him. The Rashi is hay base in Bayukra. So in the ten-minute zikkr, he went over to the rebbe in Duchman, the rebbe came to him, and he said that the Rashi is hay base. So the rebbe came in, and the rebbe went on the table, uh, "So you're going to learn a p'brangen?" "Mashmoe, the Rashi is hay base." Rebbe turns around, "What? Who said such a thing? Who's playing with me?" He, he knocked, "You shouldn't start learning davening until the bach-- to the person that said this, who go on the bimah say that I did it." The rebbe that said it ran away, ran away across the street to turn forty-nine. Lucky he went there. It was, was million diks then. Because the shabbos was done ten to eleven then. Fifty minute rebbe was not davening. So then the ten-minute rebbe went on the bimah, that he sat on the... "Nisht der menech." Rebbe saw who he is. He knew it's not him. He didn't think it up. But on the spot he said, "Nisht der menech," huh? "Who's the guy that thought of this whole thing?" And then the rebbe,

1:30:50 Speaker 1 I'm just going ten to eleven, it was for davening. They had rebbe, a few did very yom kippur in the front. But it was nice, it was very... And then Duchman, I saw a chapter, and he wrote to the rebbe a tikkun also. So he didn't know he was-- him and the teller that always tells him Shomi Sol. He tells him a new guy came. He thought maybe Shomi Sol wasn't there or what. Rebbe didn't... And the eider, the, maybe the eider, a ruchma person that's made the, him a tikkun. Rebbe didn't take the tikkun, give him a tikkun. It was fire. Even though it transformed, people told him. It was fire. You see, with the rebbe, you don't screw up in, in such a situation. We also had a story. We s-

1:31:38 Speaker 7 Which one?

1:31:39 Speaker 1 Huh? We're sitting upstairs in some family.

1:31:42 Speaker 7 Which one are you talking about?

1:31:43 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:31:43 Speaker 7 You're talking about which one?

1:31:44 Speaker 1 What?

1:31:45 Speaker 7 Who had a story?

1:31:46 Speaker 1 Our, our, our kippah.

1:31:48 Speaker 7 Oh, okay.

1:31:48 Speaker 1 And when we went to p'brangen with Yankel Dada Kotlarsky Yosef, you know, it was, it was Yosef, May Kotlarsky's older brother. He died in Montreal.

1:31:58 Speaker 7 Sure.

1:31:58 Speaker 1 Twenty nineteen, and, uh, almost. He sat there, and he was now two days when he was younger. He sat down to p'brangen. So Reuven Shapira said, "If there wouldn't be no gazelle, we would take some basket to Yankel," and we would say... So from Michelle, that's right to the rebbe. Reuven Shapira wrote for Joe. We write to the rebbe, he take all the gazelle from tonight. He, he took a piece of paper from the table, and "Pajow, there's all the stupid things written on it." What rebbe's written on that piece of paper and sat on the table all day. He had shwar, shwar and petade, you know. He was in between, he found a cholent. They wrote, "Al hachatan," for Joe. "I find, not give up. We'll find for Joe." Then there was Dov Bekrat. You heard about Dov Bekrat. He was a wild guy. He was a Chiddishe guy, a Haim Bo. Haim Bo, uh, Bekrat grabbed the paper and gave it to Haim Bo. The Rebbe of Chiddishe, of the Rav in California, Dolgin. He was a famous Rav, going to Chiddishe. And it looks like he gave it to him to give to the rebbe in, in the name of the bachag. They told us, "Don't worry, the rebbe had it already." We'd leg it to our rebbe. We'd mechide the rebbe, therefore. The rebbe, tomorrow afternoon, Mishir Hashaka, I mean, early, um, half past three o'clock in the afternoon, he said- He can't be called Doberaski. Doberaski can be maybe called

1:33:19 Speaker 1 me and ask about Rashag want to fall out here. You know, they are sure they gave it in the cl- And Rashag had that whole setup. The Rebbe sent a letter in, "My bachur mix in a Yid, a Rav that goes into Chiddis," you know. Uh, they asked later, they eat what the Rebbe do, the Rebbe look turn, put it on the table right away. And if you call it, that is four questions. How they eat, and chitas, what bachur thought for being on their own, Matar and Mishbir, uh, four questions, yeah. We sh- ash-- We shapen them. You don't do anything wild in front of somebody, even for a joke or the joke.

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1:35:32 Speaker 1 By the pill, Rabbi Garen, Rabbi Gusnater, Rabbi Roblim, what Rabbi Tikkun, that we didn't interview the Rebbe, guys, so that's fine. Rebbe doesn't go into that. Why you write like a chilul, yeah? Yeah, bikla sheko, you don't do such a thing. Why? That's a story. I told you a story.

1:35:50 Speaker 7 How old are you then?

1:35:51 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:35:51 Speaker 7 How old are you bachurim then?

1:35:53 Speaker 1 Seventeen, man.

1:35:54 Speaker 7 Oh, yeah.

1:35:56 Speaker 1 And then was a story. The F, uh, was perhaps a ch- a chabad bachur. We were seventeen years old in the Ramakita. Had a kop krov to me, and he was shpirer in a fine pakalski. That Yael need help in chavad. We should help Yael in chavad, and everything. And then Shonda Rebbe done zosa eider ten shiyat from the world. Now chabad krov come to F of Yut Shvat. Rebbe said it was a pela mayum. The Yid all over Shabbos to get a bal mashgiach for this minuy. You swear?

1:36:30 Speaker 7 It is a pela that he didn't give him the bal mashgiach.

1:36:32 Speaker 1 Mashgiach. We should go over to the Rebbe, but the problem was bal mashgiach. We wouldn't-- We needn't think about it. Seventeen-year-old kid got the Rebbe the mashgiach for what? Tell Rebbe Yael about the problem. Well, kopon in the other one, Shabbos F was Chanukah Shas B'Shvat. Chanukah Shas B'Shvat, we should go over to the Rebbe with a bal mashgiach. I said, "I'm not going with." So Rebbe didn't say he didn't go to the Rebbe. Fine. He went to Rebbe bal mashgiach. Asked, "Uh, for what is it?" "Chavad. What chavad? What chavad?" Tell Rebbe Yael chavad, chavad. In, in, in both shitas, the Tzeiter Bachur, both shitas too. He want to ever should say that it's in for chavad, chavad. And I was laughing the whole time. N-young kid, you know. And we said l'chaim, and we went to our places. The Rebbe said, the mother says, "But we also saw Mayim babekabel." You should go with the Mayim. Yael is sitting on the other side. We should go-- We have to go over all the tables to Yael and sit next to him. Rebbe said, "I want you to drink a whole glass of wine." Say l'chaim to the poor kid, you know. Say l'chaim. Yael should tell both l'chaim. And the parents should tell l'chaim. And so it was a whole, it was a whole thing. Then started, he want to work, work with Rebbe Yael. Rebbe Yael said, "He doesn't want to work with you." Yeah, no, no Yael, yeah. "Eh? Am what?"

1:37:54 Speaker 7 What does that mean? So the Yael moved over to you?

1:37:57 Speaker 1 We went to him. Rebbe said, "But also maybe he moved over after a year later."

1:38:01 Speaker 7 Right.

1:38:01 Speaker 1 But in the beginning, we went to him.

1:38:03 Speaker 7 Fine. So you go to the Rebbe, and the Yael's not, he's not reciprocating to this whole, uh-

1:38:07 Speaker 1 Yeah, but later... So we started. We were shpirer. I made the nachas of Minun and the Sichas. I made the Mamaron for four years.

1:38:16 Speaker 7 So you're saying you decided to do it independently from Yael?

1:38:18 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yael got saved. Yael wanted to do everything, but he couldn't. Rebbe want to Yael to watch out for everything.

1:38:27 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:38:31 Speaker 1 I think Rebbe one told him, "When your head hurts you so much, you can't watch out for everything, then you can work on Sichas."

1:38:37 Speaker 7 Uh, what?

1:38:38 Speaker 1 "When your head hurts you so much, then you can work on the Sichas. But till then, you can't work on... You have no permission to work on Sichas."

1:38:45 Speaker 7 When your head hurts-

1:38:46 Speaker 1 Hurts you so much, you can't work normal so much and watch out for everything, then you can work on Sichas. So with Rebbe, we can pray, like we were his friend, and we have to do it. So I wrote chabad, chabad, chabad, then Mamaron. I, I worked with a fine pakalski, and I said in mind when he wrote, there was some hope a little bit he said I'd good. And when I went to Chiddis, I never wrote that I'm making the Mamaron. Rebbe gave me the bracha, "Albuch aldus gefregt. Aldus gefafsheim is nicht geschriben." And I said, "Rebbe, I mean, I'm wr- writing the Mamaron." But I didn't want to write to Rebbe, "I'm making the Mamaron." With that feeling, but kid then not to worry about yourself. But this how it went till I got married. Then the next generation took over and everything, yeah.

1:39:36 Speaker 7 Um, there was a few-- In your time, there was a few, um, surprise, uh, Mamaron.

1:39:43 Speaker 1 Yeah. One time, good. I imagine it was some surprise Mamaron. Shabbos eight o'clock, but min- minimum by us it was-

1:39:51 Speaker 7 That was earlier. That was in the Yut.

1:39:52 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Chof, Chof Alef and Fosfor, yeah.

1:39:55 Speaker 7 Chof Alef.

1:39:56 Speaker 1 So Yod, Yod Gimel ear, yeah. But then we, we came to Cheaper. In Cheaper, we always... Yeah, we used to have a problem with the sometime in Cheaper. It means Rebbe can change... In Cheaper to San Sanvi, it was Chof Shin Chof Gimel, yeah. a can, the end of not a can.

1:40:17 Speaker 7 Tasha Kadal.

1:40:21 Speaker 1 No, no. Hub gimme with, with not a can. Uh, huh.

1:40:31 Speaker 7 Is that where the surprise maim in Matzan Kipper?

1:40:32 Speaker 1 In Matzan Kipper, Kadal to bring a part. Part with Kadal there. For Copa Namon, he used to come down from the other table, it's from the rising of the Nazi. They used to eat there in Matzan Kipper, and they used to come down with wine and, and for brain all over. That everybody left home. Nobody was there. I mean, a year before also, Alex Feldman was here. Remember, she went with Alex Feldman to Meyer Harley's house to, to fabrain. We had a, in, in Matzan Kipper, we, we fabrain. The pail, everyone home. Me and Shalom Levinson were the only upstairs and thinking, "Should we go, go fabrain some place? Nobody's coming. Yael's not here. Nobody's here." And it was cold in... Well, suddenly, we see the Rebbe going to the and past the zar, so he gets a look at us. He goes to his table upstairs, we down Friday night, nobody. Huh?

1:41:25 Speaker 7 By the window.

1:41:26 Speaker 1 Yeah, and he sits down. I said, "Shalom, what should we do? Maybe on the city, maybe they will need something." That go slow, foot by foot, step by step. They were looking at us, we're going step by step. Rebbe say, "Go away, we'll go away." Rebbe didn't say nothing. We truly reached the table. Reached the table, Rebbe's holding his, his, his quality, his handkerchief. That same, the reminder in Popcatana Bay is of hundred and fifty years ago, a man from up there in Matzan Kipper. Meantime, outside, Meyer Harley was waiting. They were waiting for Rebbe to go into a car, and they were all outside, Becker Wolf, Meyer Harley, uh, Slim Adams, all the guys were here. Then they saw Rebbe close his light in the room. They waiting five minutes, Rebbe not come into the car. One goes and saying, "What's going on?" Rebbe closed the wine, and he shows everything, the name Meyer Harley going over the table there, yeah. And there are about thirty people. And then Shomi Saw was an American, he didn't know it. So I'm told that was your Miami came out with a tape recorder. So Miami was twelve minutes. He came out with his tape recorder, and he, he had the tape. And, and, and this was... And Becker Wolf came into the, how do you call, room. The dancing in Miami, and ah, Becker Wolf's jokes. They all sat there in America. And the pail knew this was a, this was the maim, uh, part. Father

1:42:55 Speaker 1 of two young kids, seventeen years old.

1:42:58 Speaker 7 You and Shalom Levinson.

1:42:59 Speaker 1 Yeah. But then it came a crap.

1:43:01 Speaker 7 So who wrote the maim then?

1:43:03 Speaker 1 So we all had good head, and there's a tape from the second head, from the third tape. The maim came out.

1:43:12 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:43:12 Speaker 1 It's from maim. We see maim. We were always with Chadar, uh, you know.

1:43:19 Speaker 7 Um, so that was, uh, the Rebbe started Pashwa.

1:43:23 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:43:24 Speaker 7 Only you two were in the room when the Rebbe started the maim then.

1:43:26 Speaker 1 He saw the maim going through. Now, I heard this kid blew a line to his father was there. Nobody there. Then he came later. Everybody wrote stories about him, but that was fine.

1:43:34 Speaker 7 Was Rabbi Sofiman there?

1:43:36 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:43:36 Speaker 7 Sofiman?

1:43:36 Speaker 1 In the middle, he came in, yeah.

1:43:40 Speaker 7 Yeah. Um-

1:43:42 Speaker 1 These old people were outside, and they came in, no.

1:43:45 Speaker 7 Right. So you wrote... Sorry. So you two wrote the Hanukkah?

1:43:50 Speaker 1 We... There was a Hanukkah. There was a, uh, there was a tape from-

1:43:54 Speaker 7 Nine-teen minutes

1:43:55 Speaker 1 ... from Hanukkah. It was twelve minutes of Haim.

1:43:57 Speaker 7 Right.

1:43:58 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:43:59 Speaker 7 Okay, I have a question. What about, uh, some of the Hasidim, Reb Shmuel?

1:44:04 Speaker 1 Uh.

1:44:05 Speaker 7 Maybe you can share a little bit, uh, Kavim L'Dvosai.

1:44:10 Speaker 1 Uh, Shmuel was a... Rebbe, Rebbe was, was very... Hit his becheret. He's the only old Bachasid that ever went to a, a rabbi, to a Bet Seom.

1:44:21 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:44:22 Speaker 1 He's the only person. And he always been makar with me because he said, "Fabrain, who came to fabrain?" By days with Weinberg, Talaba, Rostein, a few, and Zolmanov. They gave me from the first one L'Chaim. Said, "You're a king," he always told me. Then he told his eynikl, "You're a Levi." Said, "That good excuse to give his eynikl because the king." But he was always close, and he always just sit down next to me and told stories. But Shmuel had not what to say. Shmuel's like all the older people. Amol had five hundred stories. We got to know him. Kadala, they had fifty stories. And by the end, Zolmanov, they had thirteen stories. And in Piroshev, Rabbi Hey, Rabbi Bala, he, he had twenty-five stories from like an old mashpia. Shmuel Chaim told the same five stories every fabrain. In Yael, there was ten years told the same ten stories. That, that's how it go. I say the same stories then, right?

1:45:24 Speaker 7 Yeah.

1:45:25 Speaker 1 Even though you know more stories, but what's on your tongue? Yeah.

1:45:32 Speaker 7 But, um, from Shmuel, so a lot of the things you heard from-

1:45:35 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Shmuel, Shmuel was like this. When Shazar had to come, the story like this and story, story, story like that. And he heard the Rebbe were under pressure, not happy that Shazar not coming, the whole situation. He couldn't b- b- believe it. Who's Shazar? Uh, nothing. But the Rebbe never said how he come, he doesn't come. He sat Chadakav in the hallway. "Is it true? Are the Rebbe take home the Torah that the Shazar not coming?" He says, "Yes." So I want to go into that again.

1:46:06 Speaker 7 This is the whole thing when, when the, the Shazar's-

1:46:08 Speaker 1 Yeah

1:46:08 Speaker 7 ... people pressured him that he came to the Rebbe, the Rebbe said no to him.

1:46:11 Speaker 1 Shmuel Re-- Shmuel Rebb to go into the Rebbe whenever he wanted to. So Saturday mid-day, I'll call upon him tomorrow. I'll call upon him. So next day, so Shmuel told me he went into the Rebbe. Yes, and it's true. It bothers the Rebbe if Shazar come now. He goes, "No, no, who Shazar? I'm not..." You know who, who they are, this whole group of people. Rebbe said, "Yeah, it's not because of me, because of Sanzer Rebbe, the Benko. It's not come to me. It doesn't come to me." They, they have to come here because the, the Benko's here, the Rebbe's here. So that she told the Rebbe, "Send me to him. I'll bring him to you." Make me a schlicha to Shazar. Rebbe send them three people to Shazar. I think Yale, perhaps Shmuel, and what, Ginzberg maybe. And Shmuel said the story when he came into Shazar, he told him, "I'll check all of the Gematria." See, so-

1:47:09 Speaker 7 Shinur.

1:47:09 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:47:10 Speaker 7 Shazar's shinur.

1:47:11 Speaker 1 Shinur no more. See, so sh- he came to the peak of his friend Zosha, Shmuel said. So Shmuel told me he told him the same as what he always would say, "A, a worth of," I believe it's what, "Yoffes a ache." Yeah. "Yoffes a ache." A ein cher. You know, that this turn you'll make. And this is the Chaim Grade, he was a writer, a Zionist writer. He used to write in the Forverts, later he wrote in among them now, another name, called Chaim Grade. He was a yeshiva bochur among the, the Litvish yeshiva. Later he became a writer. He was close with, uh, Shazar. He told Shazar, "Go. These guys are gonna forget about you. You'll be sorry your whole life you didn't go to the Rebbe."

1:47:55 Speaker 7 These guys will forget about you.

1:47:56 Speaker 1 So he had a main effect on him.

1:47:59 Speaker 7 This guy, you mean, by the way?

1:48:00 Speaker 1 Huh? Chaim Grade.

1:48:01 Speaker 7 No, no, the, when you-

1:48:02 Speaker 1 So the Rebbe always give him ma'at to fold over. Take a ma'at, a, a, air paper that you have a whole ma'at of him.

1:48:09 Speaker 7 What about the other Hasidim? Mendel Futerfas came.

1:48:11 Speaker 1 Ah. Chabad they came. Yeah. Him anyway, he was a big idol on Bechoros. He, he went to, he, he, he lived... Then yes, the Rebbe, a broche of Asher Sosanken, that he just, that he just told him, "We can't go out of Russia. If you say no, you have to wait a year to get papers again." So he has to broche him. Rebbe entered Asher Shindo. Two, three days later, he got that you should go right out of Russia, he said. All thanks to Asher Shindo, and more things like this.

1:48:48 Speaker 7 So I, I know you lived through, um, Vav Tishrei and the petirahs of the-

1:48:54 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:48:54 Speaker 7 You lived through Vav Tishrei and the petirah of the Rebbetzin, the Rebbe's mother, the Tzechanah.

1:48:59 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

1:48:59 Speaker 7 I think a, a lot of things changed then, no?

1:49:01 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:49:01 Speaker 7 A lot of things changed then, no? What, what was the-

1:49:05 Speaker 1 What you call it? I remember we were Shabbaton morning in Sanzer Rebbe, Shabbos Shuva. The baby of the Rebbe's from house, this winner came saying the Rebbetzin fell down from bed, and she can't get her up. What should we do? So I ran right away to Zeligson's house, and he lived on Connections in Brooklyn then. There was a label B-B-Brendel then. We send him to Rebbe's house, meet him there.

1:49:31 Speaker 7 Who's, who's, the Bachim?

1:49:33 Speaker 1 Yeah, we send him.

1:49:34 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:49:35 Speaker 1 There's no one to send with me, so the Rebbe didn't, maybe should go. Nobody more to send here. And Brendel went to the Rebbe's house. So everybody thought the Rebbe not gonna far bent to it. Shabbos Shuva was fine, but Rebbe's mother so sick. She had a Shabbos stroke. The Rebbe came from Sanuy Down. He went to far, far breng, and Reb Yonah and daughters was going back and forth till the Rebbe the match of year. And yeah, Rebbe cried twice by the, by the far breng. One time he crying. First was, um, uh, in far breng, Va-Va-Va-Vayelech to Medosh Hashem with the nature God and the best opening to yeshiva, why you got to learn in yeshiva? Because you know Vayema, Meir Basmanshon, it come nine hundred and twenty years. We can't no dinim. You only learn the dinim w- like this. So you went to learn the dinim from HaVe'elos? That's what it says in there. Then Rebbe cried, Vanechi Asu Asu. Rebbe was crying then. Vanechi Asu Asu, yeah. And then the story of Parashat, we went to a basement. It says dark. They, someone says not so dark. This is the whole thing. You think the darkness is not darkness. Asu Asu, this is the hester. Rebbe was crying very much. I, so how do you go through this? You have to know Vanechi Asu Asu. The Nechi is in Asu Asu. The Nechi is here, the essence is here. Rebbe was crying very much. Later, Reb Yonah came with Dr.

1:51:15 Speaker 1 Zeligson. The Rebbe's mother's nisten, we hear already. Rebbe finished far breng right away, and we davened Mincha right away, and Rebbe ran to his room. He ran out of his room holding the Kof Tomim in his hand. He put it on by the step going outside. He went, he ran down the step. He mamish ran to his mother's house, mamish ran. And he came, he went to the house. Right away, a solar would be a-- No, an ambulance, not solar. And they took him into a low am-ambulance, these low ambulance from long ago. He went into ambulance, and Mrs. Kahn went into, Yoel Kahn's wife went into ambulance. The mishpacha, Yoel Kahn's wife and the Rebetzin. And also there has to be a lady there in case... So they both went to hospital. And as like full, you went, you had some Rebbe's, uh, maamer ben, the famous Heimtzot Chaf Hey, where every kehillah, you went down to hear the maamer. Everybody went down the Chabad. Then we heard the Rebbe went to the hospital. Everybody running away from Chabad. Rebbe ran to the hospital, Jewish hospital. It was here on Classon and Franklin, like Prospect Place. So everybody ran to the hospital. The doctor came there. Everybody was not here, and Rebbe said she check her with a feather, and did she, she breathe. I run to window, you were crying then. Did everything to up again if she's talking not around, yeah. They have basum bochum there. The nishtuf, uh, fabregen. Basum bochum

1:52:40 Speaker 1 there. Basum bochum there.

1:52:42 Speaker 7 The bochum, um, mom was in the r- in the floor in the room nearby?

1:52:46 Speaker 1 In, in the big room. So Rebbe walked out, he said bochum.

1:52:49 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:52:49 Speaker 1 Basum bochum. Then she, they put the rebbon and Rebbe in jackets and silence. Well, what should say? Uh, and then say, "I should make, make a sidra, you can read this," and blah, blah, blah. They didn't know what to say. And Rebbe knew by after Yom Kippur, Rebbe spoke on Shabbos, after... Knowing the dinim of a veil, she knew very cool. So fine. Maybe they took the rebbetzin to her house. Rebbe said you should, said you should put a shofar under the head of a... So drink some w- uh, where do you get shofar at night, middle of the night? Rebbe said, "No problem." Yisroel bochum there. "Get to mikvah. Now my bed, you take a broom and rip it up." A molecule, brooms away out of shofar, and a home straight, the base of the tikun straight. He said, "Yisroel, get to mikvah in Crown, now my bed, and take out the bed, and throw straight," you know.

1:53:49 Speaker 7 So then by... So Tav Shin Chaf He.

1:53:51 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:53:52 Speaker 7 Tav Shin Chaf He, you were by all the, the whole, everything was different. Rebbe learned from the Amud, by the tefillins.

1:53:56 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Amud, and to call it here. They made a geyer who could go into the tefillins here. Then the question is, Rebbe was asking every people in Machne Ahavah, bring a small shofar because we go to Tishrei, and then we go to Erev Yom Kippur. Should we go to Mikvah Erev Yom Kippur? Nobody know what to answer. But the other one, I think the Satan said it, should go. The Satan called a few times. His biggest b- business is now before Yom Kippur. The gvirim come from all over. Satan come... Rebbe say he could come in every once in a while, you know, night when they, you know. He came from noon and night, he came. He called ten times. He wanted to come now. There's more people came. The peril that Rebbe came, Rebbe gave the beracha early, Erev Yom Kippur, but about bottom downstairs in shul. He went on the table and said the beracha. Some rabbi wasn't there yet. He went up to the Rebbe. He didn't hear the beracha. He went, I went again on the table to the beracha again, yeah. Um, yeah. And the son, uh, Chabad Shliach son that talking, Rebbe said, "Master from Chana," Rebbe was crying in haftera. Every time it says Chana in haftera, Rebbe cried. He never cried when it's Chana, but different sukka. He cried when he read Chana. Every time haftera read Chana, Rebbe cried, the Chabad Shliach son about haftera. It was interesting-

1:55:21 Speaker 7 Before the snagos?

1:55:22 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:55:23 Speaker 7 Before the snagos?

1:55:24 Speaker 1 Yeah. It was also with Ha- HaRav Chana had a chair in the... With... On the other side where it paraded the sukkah. Old chair. And Rosh HaShana we heard batukia, the fire, the fire engine was there. Her chair caught on fire. Old chair. HaRav Chana's chair, yeah. And, and way the Rebbe and the rebbetzin used to walk, she used to come to the meals dot here in Chabad here, Chabad Sochana. She was there, and, and the Rebbe and the rebbetzin used to walk her home from Machne to her house. The rebbetzin used to wave on Kingston Avenue a little bit further in. The Rebbe used to walk with the rebbetzin from seven and the rebbetzin had a lot on Kingston Avenue, and they walked to her house. Even when she passed away, the rebbetzin still used to come to the meals. Rebbe used to meet her by Kingston and Union on their way out, and used to walk home together.

1:56:24 Speaker 7 The president.

1:56:25 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:56:26 Speaker 7 The president.

1:56:26 Speaker 1 By U- Union Street.

1:56:28 Speaker 7 Oh, they would walk on, down Union Street to Brooklyn. So you got married in Tav Shin-

1:56:37 Speaker 1 Lamed, me.

1:56:38 Speaker 7 Lamed. So what happened with your, by your shidduch?

1:56:41 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:56:41 Speaker 7 There was-

1:56:41 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:56:42 Speaker 7 ... there was answers from the Rebbe about your shidduch?

1:56:44 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:56:44 Speaker 7 There was answers from the Rebbe about your shidduch?

1:56:47 Speaker 1 Sure.

1:56:48 Speaker 7 You know what?

1:56:48 Speaker 1 That's an empty into anything, you know? Bracha, you know, kehillah, you know.

1:56:52 Speaker 7 So how did you become a mashpia?

1:56:54 Speaker 1 Because that year, chiddush, I told the Rebbe... Rebbe told me a few times, "Dive into learn Bach and Chassidus."

1:57:01 Speaker 7 The Rebbe told you in chassidus before you-

1:57:03 Speaker 1 Even as a choson, I used to learn Hadar Peh chassidus, Bach. I said, "I want to go away as choson." Rebbe said, "Dive into learn Bach and Chassidus." Who said you have Bach and chassidus when you be a choson? So I used to go to Hadar Peh and share with them about chassidus. And I came to the chasuna. Before chasuna, I told the Rebbe that I wanna go on shlichus and everything. Rebbe said, "What makes you shlichus? There's far in Australia, in North America, it's nothing. And between here and there, it's a shlicha here in Australia." After choson, after chosonit, I paid a price for it. Rebbe, "Bin a shlich to Nisht."

1:57:38 Speaker 7 You asked the Rebbe, "See if bin a shlich to Nisht."

1:57:41 Speaker 1 Rebbe got very serious. "If I'm nishtav and nishtina, it's a shlicha here in Australia. You've been nishtav and nishtina."

1:57:46 Speaker 7 Hmm.

1:57:49 Speaker 1 I mean, what's called Rebbe nishtav and nishtina, it means that he is completely away, yeah. I know I was not nishtav and nishtina, so I never went to the yana for shlichus and-

1:57:58 Speaker 7 Didn't you ask the Rebbe later about going on shlichus?

1:58:00 Speaker 1 Yeah.

1:58:00 Speaker 7 What happened?

1:58:01 Speaker 1 Maybe after a year or two in Shira, I wrote to Rebbe. "I feel it's not, it's not for me." Yeah. If I could pack Shiri Shiri, the whole Bachasit. I'm an American boy. I'm not into mashpia. I wanna go away on shlichus. That is a únom ledayte yigiya.

1:58:18 Speaker 7 Say it again, say it again.

1:58:19 Speaker 1 I, I wrote to the Rebbe on an open, on a ein araf neizes.

1:58:22 Speaker 7 Mm-hmm.

1:58:23 Speaker 1 It's a únom ledayte yigiya. It's a talmid techudnim, a talmid chiddush, ein yigeh kol as inash nas hashibim. V'kas v'sheb'chayes k'm tov chol as modim, ven tzadfi inash u'bei oeseh. You understood? This is it.

1:58:37 Speaker 7 Can you say the whole thing in English?

1:58:38 Speaker 1 Huh?

1:58:39 Speaker 7 Say the whole thing in English.

1:58:40 Speaker 1 W- how do you think we should horror base work hard that talmid should be a t- a talmid chiddush and not yigeh nas hashibim? And, and this what you write, that you have machayes k'm tov chol as modim. Not f- n- not in the inyan that you are oeseh kinit by him.

1:59:01 Speaker 7 Hmm. So what do you say about the bachurim? Teaching by your mashpia bachurim all these years, so what's up with the bachurim?

1:59:08 Speaker 1 T- t- today is such a good bachurim, I'm telling you. Today in yeshiva, the bachurim sitting on nigle oksidis, they're going shlichas, there's not enough places to go. It turned around a lot in this two, three years. A lot of g- a lot of good bachurim, a lot of good bachurim. A lot of good bachurim. The bachurim that come to Sun Sunday. The only thing, there are a lot of bachurim that not make it Sun Sunday. They have a taiva for money, but nobody was not freer from the money that they made when the bachurim went to work and this. The bachurim that come Sun Sunday, they turn out there's so many good bachurim today, so many good bachurim today. So, yeah.

1:59:49 Speaker 7 So what do you say to the bachurim that, uh, we s- we spoke a lot about the things that you saw by the Rebbe. What about those that d- that don't, that don't?

1:59:58 Speaker 1 That what?

2:00:00 Speaker 7 The bachurim of today that don't, don't have the same thing you had.

2:00:03 Speaker 1 That they didn't see the Rebbe? For a bachurim that's very devoted to the Rebbe, and if he, um, that works in that way, they, it gets into his head and it got into his heart, and becomes mamesh neshame the people that were by the Rebbe. The Rebbe spoke once a whole farbrengen, pashtet tzadik tzalcha chazain, when the first crew went to Australia. So remember in Marathon, in N- in Newark then, had they call Chadakob, you'll be at a farbrengen, bachurim going this year the first time to Australia, I got to know. So on holiday, didn't matter bachurim come in for Shabbos. The melech understood probably, "I have appointment by doctor Friday afternoon, he has to be gone out." The friend Rebbe farbrechen with a big geschmacke f- f- farbrengen there, and the bachurim they live in Newark, Brooklyn, do windows and the kitchen, and they all come in, bring a friend over. But kol ponim, Rebbe farbrengen, he started off on a minor, but since it's Be'ach Misbach Steyos, he speaks about the shlichim then. The question is th- th- there if a time of gonuf, how do you have what to eat? What, what, we need Aish Pa, gan on the, all of the gimt, the garden doesn't come into a garden. So in the day I speak about the shlichim, things that were planted before, and the seeds are on the ground, and then it grows. Rebbe spoke then a whole sicha that was called the Mikvah Rebbe Sh- Sh- Shlichim to Eretz

2:01:34 Speaker 1 Yisrael together. They didn't wanna go to Japan and send them kontras and memoriam and letters all the time. Ten, ten years when they send people more often kontras and the letters. And then what you call it, and that's where you find a lot of memoriam Mikvah Rebbe in Eretz Yisrael is with a memoriam, the bichvach, the Mikvah Rebbe used to send to, to Eretz Yisrael. Then he said, and I said, the meya said that he saw only Rebbe from the back. If he in the front, he would see more. So he spoke about that they sh- they take everything today from M- Mitzayah, from the Harav, you could get everything and so forth. Rebbe said, "Shmaka vol v'fad here, they'll come back again." Then Mikvah Rebbe sent Eretz Yisrael with, it's forever.

2:02:27 Speaker 7 Right.

2:02:27 Speaker 1 He, you, um, said, "Vendech nachamu," Misatham. It's not forever, it's for two years. It was very geschmacke, geschmacke, geschmacke vol. And then spoke all about the, the shlichim there. And then he spoke about the whole inyan, what you call it, the oksidis and so forth. And he said, "Your f- what do you then, then you z- you z- you zeib in Russia, it's oksidis. And this, and here become a, in America with hein pataytum and things just... You have them techach mim and there's no," the special nu the Rebbe said, "Is no." And then Moshiach will come, we'll ask Rebbe three shailas. How much inyan we makarav to the Rebbe diShvaya? Chitas, and when you come t- till if you were 8:30 by till or not. And next week is Parshas Mikui Dei, it's also in Bachot. Rebbe came into till and he looks around every person that was there. Oh, it's a tzum kin, a very small crowd. You could... A lot of bachurim went to sleep this Yom, we had by, by the far- farbrengen. Come to till and you'll be tired. Rebbe looked around behind whom, behind him. Rebbe gave a heel, we eb- hand achas to till him, yeah. And the bachurim in Australia went to Australia, they, they saw the Rebbe diShvaya when they were small, the kadnosom. And they, he saw the Rebbe when you're older and it had no effect on you. You have a heel it's a crowd, yeah. They saw the Rebbe just the kadnosom. Nobody

2:04:05 Speaker 1 ever saw that big Rebbe, you know? Maybe saw the Rebbe when they were young, young bachurim. And you're a crowd that only people, there's no shiur, you give a sharp sicha, you know? Right, yeah.

2:04:19 Speaker 7 So what are you saying?

2:04:19 Speaker 1 Huh?

2:04:20 Speaker 7 What are you saying for the bachurim, heint?

2:04:23 Speaker 1 He said a bachurim that, a bachur that's a ibi yeb and does what Rebbe wants him, or takanas and all, everything. Rebbe finds a way how to g- how to get into him. Rebbe find a way to every bachur. Uh, the sp- the ruach of the Rebbe, the yochid should come into him. Well, you have to be an ibi yeb and not be big head, you all shtussim, and you're devoted, and do whatever we want. Rebbe find the way how to reach every bachur. It's true, you see that. You see that's an s- special, a besorah on bachurim today. Very special bachurim today.

2:05:04 Speaker 7 Okay. Es iker, Rabbi Zaychi.

2:05:06 Speaker 1 Anytime for you.