0563 - Repeating Words in Chazaras Hashatz Part 1 - Ata Vechartanu

00:01 The new nigun that the Rebbe taught Simchas Torah, Tov Shin Chof Aleph, which is 1960, was the nigun Ata VeChatonu. And the nigun has a few parts to it. One part is when you say just the words once, Ata VeChatonu mi kol ha'amim, etc., etc. Then there is a part where you repeat the words, Ata, Ata VeChatonu, etc., etc. So by the farbrengen of the second day of Sukkos, Tov Shin Chof Gimel, which is 1962, the Rebbe spoke about it. The Rebbe said he wants to mention that people should know that when the Olam sings the nigun Ata VeChatonu be Chazaras HaShatz, the Chazan has to sing along or say along with them because he has to chazar over Chazaras HaShatz is when you repeat the Shemoneh Esreh. He has to repeat the whole Shemoneh Esreh, including Ata VeChatonu, in order to be meitav to the people. So therefore, when they sing it, he has to be, sing along or say along with them. And then there's a second thing that the Rebbe said then. That when you sing Ata VeChatonu in Chazaras HaShatz, you should not sing that part where you repeat words because in davening, bechlal, you shouldn't repeat words because even the number of words is exact in davening, so you can't make extra words. And that is even in a place where you could be mafsik, where you could interrupt. Certainly in a place where you can't interrupt. And we're talking here about Shemoneh Esreh because when the Chazan repeats Shemoneh

01:19 Esreh, it is a din of Shemoneh Esreh. So therefore, you should only sing that part which you don't repeat the words. So you should only sing the parts Ata VeChatonu and not the other part which is Ata, Ata VeChatonu. That's what the Rebbe said then. And I want to say the reason why the Rebbe seems like said that because I think it was that Sukkos, one of the tefillahs, one of the Chazanim when he said Chazaras HaShatz and he started Ata VeChatonu. So instead of starting Ata VeChatonu, he started the other one. He started saying Ata, Ata VeChatonu. Right away they stopped him and he changed it to the regular one. But it seems like because of that, the Rebbe spoke that you should not say that part where you have to repeat the words. And from then on became takah de'minig always that, not only from then on, but before also de'minig is that you only say the part where you don't repeat the words. And I want to mention that in that same farbrengen behem sheft it is, the Rebbe said something else, a meaning that later is written in Sefer HaMinhagim, but he said another thing that he wanted to make sure that people know, and that will be in the next voicemail.