0478 - The Rebbe's Connection with R' Zalman Shimon Dvorkin Part 4 - Question Regarding Treifus

00:01 I heard this from Rav Zalman Shimon himself. There was a shchita out of town of New York, I think it was in Scranton, where the shochtim would go there, go by plane, stay there a few days or something like that, and then they would come back for Shabbos, and they would shech there. And if they ever had a shaila, obviously, since it was under the hechsher of Rav Tvarkin, so they would call Rav Zalman Shimon with a shaila. The last day that they were there one week, and they shechted a certain amount of behemes, and then became a shaila on one of the lungs of one of the behemes. I guess, I don't know if it was treif mamish. Yeah, I think it was found that it was treif. The problem was that the lungs were already separated, and they weren't able to match the lung to the other parts of the beheme. They didn't know to which beheme it belonged, and they shechted a whole bunch of behemes, which were kosher, which were glatt kosher. I don't know what the amount was, but it was a lot. And they don't know, here they have a lung, which we don't know it's treif, and we don't know to which beheme it belongs to. They tried figuring out ways to connect it to this. They couldn't figure it out. Anyway, they called Rav Zalman Shimon, and he asked them, spoke to them, and tried to find out, but there's no way they could figure it out.

01:09 So he told them what the halacha is. The halacha is, since it's berov, bottle berov, so he told them, "Take one of the behemes, one of the meat of the behemes, and throw it away, throw it in the treif, and the rest is kosher." Because the din is, since it's bottle berov, they're kosher, but it says that you should eat, leave one not to eat, so we could be tayla that the treif one was over there, and throw it away. So they did that, and they went into the car or the taxi, whatever, to go to the airport, already to go back home for Shabbos. As they're driving in the taxi or in the car, one of the shochtim realized that there is a way you could match to find out to which beheme, to which part of the meat this lung belongs, which we know it's treif. There are certain numbers that are there, whatever, he figured it, he said he could figure it out. And it's like, wow. So they took the thing right back, the car right back, and they went in, and they matched it, and they realized that the one that they'd taken to throw away, that was the one that was really the treif one. So Rav Zalman Shimon says, "Here you see the kehillat Torah, that if that's the halacha, the kehillat Torah protects." Which really means the kehillat ha-berov hu pasken, and especially berov hu has the kehillat ha-derebbe. So the pasken then found out that the

02:23 one they threw away, that was the treif one.