0463 - Set Times by the Rebbe Part 1

00:01 By the Rebbe, there were set times when certain things happened. Like L'moshe, Shabbosi would come out to daven at ten o'clock. Shabbos Mevorchim Tillim was eight-thirty. The Farbrengen Shabbos was one-thirty. Farbrengen in the weekdays took place at nine-thirty. So there were different set times, but some of the things were set and some of the things developed into being set. Like for instance, concerning the davening Shabbos ten o'clock, I don't know. It started the first years. I just heard, and I don't usually repeat things that I just heard, but in this case, I'll mention that I just heard that they asked the Rebbe in the beginning of the Nisui is what time he wants to daven, and he answered that he can't be ready before ten o'clock, and they should daven ten o'clock. So that's where it started. That's what it seems like, but I'm not sure. That's something I wasn't there, and I don't really know. Negia Tillim, Shabbos Mevorchim, it was eight-thirty. That seems was not set l'chatchilah exactly for that time. It just developed. That's what I heard. But what I do know is that Reb Yehuda Gordon, when he would announce Friday night that they'll be saying Tillim tomorrow morning at eight-thirty, the lashon he always used was, "As Tillim v'tmesog hamorgen l'erech hal-nochacht," about eight-thirty. And I heard the reason was because it wasn't set exactly for eight-thirty. It was around eight-thirty. So therefore, he announced it should be around eight-thirty. And even though later years it was definitely at eight-thirty,

01:27 he still used to continue announcing that it'll be be'erech eight-thirty. Concerning the fact that they used to daven Shabbos Mevorchim at ten-thirty, that's what people know, Shabbos Mevorchim davening started at ten-thirty. That clearly was not set l'chatchilah. That was something that developed with time. 'Cause the way I remember the beginning of the Chof Tzefillah, when Tillim finished, which was sometimes a quarter to te- uh, ten, sometimes ten, quarter after ten, it was around that time, the Rebbe would come out sometimes after that. Sometimes he would come out ten-fifteen, sometimes ten-twenty, sometimes ten-thirty, ten-forty. I even remember once he came out ten to eleven. It wasn't set. Every Shabbos Mevorchim was whenever the Rebbe decided to come out. It slowly developed that he started coming out ten-thirty, and it became kil a set time of ten-thirty. But it was not originally the time that the Rebbe set, but it was something that developed. I even remember that there was one Shabbos that there was a bris. I think it was by Rabbi Kazarnowsky, za'in ikh ler chawd, maybe Rabbi Telushinsky. I think it was Rabbi Kazarnowsky that he-- we heard that he had asked the Rebbe that the Rebbe should start his Farbrengen later because since davening fini- starts at ten-thirty, it finishes very late. So between the fash-- the davening and the Farbrengen is a very short time for the bris. So he asked the Rebbe if the Rebbe could start Farbrengen later. So this is what we heard then, that the Rebbe answered to

02:53 that he will not do. But what he could do is he could start davening earlier. He'll come out to daven earlier. He won't come out to daven at ten-thirty. And actually, tak at that Shabbos, I remember the Rebbe came out to daven ten-fifteen. In other words, by the Rebbe, the time that was set for one-thirty Farbrengen was more important than the time that turned, developed to ten-thirty of davening Shabbos Mevorchim, so that he came earlier. So the Rebbe davened ten-fifteen then because the time was not set. And, uh, other times, like the time of the Farbrengen of the weekdays, that was set for nine-thirty. And they also say that the Rebbe said because he doesn't want to interfere with the Seder HaYeshiva, and the Seder HaYeshiva was still at nine-thirty. That's what they say the Rebbe said. I am not sure, but that's what I heard that the Rebbe said. Even though sometimes the Farbrengen was at a different time, but this was usually the time that if there was a Farbrengen in the weekdays, it was nine-thirty.